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Post by Dakkon on Jan 27, 2009 4:45:01 GMT
Currently, the trident really seems neglected. Being a large weapon with a x2 crit multiplier, there are many better alternatives to it in its current state. Perhaps make it 18-20 x2 ? Or 19-20 x3? The weapon changes are one of the many things I love about this server. Hopefully something can be done about the trident so it sees more use. At least to my knowledge no one uses it
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Post by FunkySwerve on Jan 27, 2009 5:41:23 GMT
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Post by starlandra on Jan 27, 2009 6:15:08 GMT
star confused... too many colors and lines and stuff :/
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Post by Dakkon on Jan 27, 2009 8:16:41 GMT
Very nice, thanks for the chart Funky. Can't wait for these changes to come in, a lot of people will definitely be using some different weapons when these changes come in that's for sure
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Post by drunkenboaster on Jan 27, 2009 8:53:29 GMT
How does iteration work?
Level 20 toon with a bab of +16 using a: IT 6 weapon would have +16/+10/+4 IT 5 weapon would have +16/+11/+6/+1 IT 4 weapon would have +16/+12/+8/+4 IT 3 weapon would have +16/+13/+10/+7/+4/+1
Or would it be level 20 toon with +16 bab IT 6 weapon would have +16/+10/+4/-2 IT 5 weapon would have +16/+11/+6/+1 IT 4 weapon would have +16/+12/+8/+4 IT 3 weapon would have +16/+13/+10/+7
Does monk levels have any effect?
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Post by pete on Jan 27, 2009 10:48:46 GMT
"Items used two handed gain 1.5 to all damage output; weapons smaller than your character receive (Str Mod / 2) to damage rather than (Str Mod)"
so a wemic str ranger dueling bastard swords will add half there str to damage
dueling scythes will add full str to damage with a further -2 to AB
does a weapon have to be a size catagory larger to be used 2 handed, or could this ranger use a single scythe for 2 less attacks, 4 more AB (compared to dual scythe) and 1.5 damage, while keeping wis AC?
is this correct?
looking forward to these changes, any news on what the sap feat will do?
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Post by Acaos on Jan 27, 2009 15:26:12 GMT
How does iteration work? Level 20 toon with a bab of +16 using a: IT 6 weapon would have +16/+10/+4 IT 5 weapon would have +16/+11/+6/+1 IT 4 weapon would have +16/+12/+8/+4 IT 3 weapon would have +16/+13/+10/+7/+4/+1 Or would it be level 20 toon with +16 bab IT 6 weapon would have +16/+10/+4/-2 IT 5 weapon would have +16/+11/+6/+1 IT 4 weapon would have +16/+12/+8/+4 IT 3 weapon would have +16/+13/+10/+7 Does monk levels have any effect? The first would be correct. Monk levels reduce monk weapon iteration from 5 to 3 (that is, kamas are normally iteration 5, but we haven't shown that in the table). Acaos
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Post by Acaos on Jan 27, 2009 15:28:16 GMT
dueling scythes will add full str to damage with a further -2 to AB It's not possible to dual scythes. Since scythes can't be dual wielded, no. It allows the wielder to daze enemies. Acaos
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Post by starlandra on Jan 27, 2009 17:21:23 GMT
star sooo confused...
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Post by pete on Jan 27, 2009 19:06:51 GMT
my mistake, I assumed because medium size toons can dual medium weapons, large could dual large
ok slightly confused, let me rephrase: is it considered two handed if your off hand is empty or does the weapon have to be a category larger than you, E.G. would a human (medium size) using longsword (medium size) and nothing in off hand count as two handed, or would the human need to use a large weapon such as great sword?
because "weapons smaller than your character receive (Str Mod / 2)" wemic (large) str rangers dueling medium weapons will only get half there str mod to damage, they would have to use a single large weapon (E.G scythe) to get full str and this would cost them there wis AC. but a pharlan (medium) str ranger could dual bastard swords (medium) at full str mod?
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Post by starlandra on Jan 27, 2009 19:16:50 GMT
bioware bug makes it so you can't dual wield large weapons even though technically you can... what you can do is hold a scythe in one hand and a bastard sword in the other... only large weap you can dual is spears... don't ask why... bioware just do...
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Post by johannhowitzer on Jan 28, 2009 1:20:32 GMT
Suddenly my choice of Double Scimitar doesn't look so shabby! Was wondering how the numbers lined up.
My guess is the large table of decimal numbers in the lower right is comparative power, assuming a creature of the same size category?
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Post by FunkySwerve on Jan 28, 2009 2:02:19 GMT
It assumes a lot more than that, as any comparison must, including the weighting of attack iterations shown in the top right, but yes, that's what it's intended to be.
Funky
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Post by KnightErrant on Jan 28, 2009 21:32:49 GMT
You can dual wield Tridents also iirc...
KE.
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Post by kaezar on Feb 1, 2009 12:06:02 GMT
With the change my Str ranger will probably abandon the katanas in favor of dualing bastards. Or maybe not even that, he may just be screwed as a large-sized dual wielder. Losing 1/2 str bonus may not be bad for a dexer, but it is death to a strengther.
Take care kaezar
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