Smite of the Black Hand (3 Mnk/9 Rng/28 BG)

[Yojimbo]

Here is the rework that might actually be playable and viable build it is still mostly just an idea build for fun because an unarmed BG sound deliciously evil.

Base Race: Human
Sub-race: Hound Archon
Extra Smiting, Greater Smite I, and Power Attack
STR: +4
CON: +2
WIS: +2
CHA: +4

Starting Stats:

Level 1

Monk (1)

STR: 14 (18) DEX: 8 CON: 12 (14) WIS: 12 (14) INT: 14 CHA: 16 (20)

Blooded Blind Fight

Hide: 4

Pre-Epic:

Level 2	Monk (2)		Hide Skill +1 (5)
Level 3	Ranger (1)		WF: Unarmed* FE: Outsider*
Level 4	Ranger (2)	CHA +1 (21)
Level 5	Ranger (3)
Level 6	Ranger (4)		Great Cleave
Level 7	Ranger (5)		FE: Aberrations
Level 8	Ranger (6)	CHA +1 (22)
Level 9	Blackguard (1)		IC: Unarmed
Level 10	Blackguard (2)
Level 11	Blackguard (3)
Level 12	Blackguard (4)	CHA +1 (23)	Divine Might
Level 13	Blackguard (5)
Level 14	Blackguard (6)
Level 15	Blackguard (7)		PC: Unarmed*
Level 16	Blackguard (8)	CHA +1 (24)
Level 17	Blackguard (9)
Level 18	Blackguard (10)		GWF: Unarmed
Level 19	Ranger (7)
Level 20	Ranger (8)	CHA +1 (25)

Epic:

Level 21	Blackguard (11)		Armor Skin
Level 22	Blackguard (12)
Level 23	Blackguard (13)		Great Smite II
Level 24	Blackguard (14)	STR +1 (19)	EWF: Unarmed
Level 25	Blackguard (15)
Level 26	Blackguard (16)		Great Smite III
Level 27	Blackguard (17)		Epic Prowess
Level 28	Blackguard (18)	STR +1 (20)
Level 29	Blackguard (19)		Great Smite IV
Level 30	Blackguard (20)		Great Smite V
Level 31	Blackguard (21)
Level 32	Blackguard (22)	STR +1 (21)	Great Smite VI
Level 33	Blackguard (23)		Great Smite VII
Level 34	Blackguard (24)
Level 35	Blackguard (25)		Great Smite VIII
Level 36	Blackguard (26)	STR +1 (22)	Great Smite IX
Level 37	Blackguard (27)
Level 38	Blackguard (28)		Great Smite X
Level 39	Ranger (9)		Great Dexterity I (9)
Level 40	Monk (3)	STR +1 (23)

Legendary:

Level 41	Blackguard (29)
Level 42	Blackguard (30)	STR +1 (34)	LSA: Tumble
Level 43	Blackguard (31)
Level 44	Blackguard (32)	STR +1 (35)
Level 45	Blackguard (33)		LWF: Unarmed
Level 46	blackguard (34)	STR +1 (37)
Level 47	Blackguard (35)
Level 48	Blackguard (36)	STR +1 (38)	Great Dexterity II (10)
Level 49	Blackguard (37)
Level 50	Blackguard (38)	STR +1 (40)
Level 51	Blackguard (39)		OC: Unarmed
Level 52	Blackguard (40)	STR +1 (41)
Level 53	Blackguard (41)
Level 54	Blackguard (42)	STR +1 (42)	DC: Unarmed
Level 55	Blackguard (43)
Level 56	Blackguard (44)	DEX +1 (11)
Level 57	Blackguard (45)		Great Dexterity III (12)
Level 58	Blackguard (46)	DEX +1 (13)
Level 59	Blackguard (47)
Level 60	Blackguard (48)	CHA +1 (30)	Great Dexterity IV (14)

Skill Points
My Calculation give you 345 skill points to allocate, 340 total minus 5 for Hide, here is how I think might be best to allocate them.

Unarmed Skill Distribution

Concentration	30
Craft Armor	63
Discipline	63
Hide	63
Listen	43
Parry	23
Tumble	60

Armed Skill Distribution

Concentration	33
Craft Armor	63
Craft Weapon	63
Discipline	63
Hide	63
Tumble	60

Final Stats:

STR: 44 DEX: 14 CON: 14 WIS: 14 INT: 14 CHA: 30

Fortitude: 75 Reflex: 64 Will: 70

Max AC: 111

Max AB: 95 Smite AB: 88

Note: I went Unarmed for fun for a better build I would go with Goad, Kama, or Nunchuk and most likely Nunchuk to remove worry of slag. I also have no idea what favored enemies are best or if it even matter for this build but you are kind stuck with it.

[StrykerOfChaos]

You need to post the class combination in the title.
Interesting at a glance, but leaving to go out for now.
I'll take a looksee later. ^_^

[Yojimbo]

Mar 20, 2009 22:50:23 GMT StrykerOfChaos said:

You need to post the class combination in the title.

oops oversite there

Hope to hear some input I am thinkin when ever I get the subby I might just build him even if he is a squishy damage dealer

[the1kobra]

Pharlan or Hound Archon would work much better for this character.
Pharlan: +6 Str, +4 cha, +4 wis, Divine might
Hound Archon: +4 Str, +4 Cha, +2 Wis, +2 Con.
You will also want a wisdom of 14 to get all your blackguard spells.
The level progression also comes off as a bit odd, if you do 8/4/28 monk/fighter/blackguard, you get +3 feats at vey little cost that I can see.

[Yojimbo]

The build was designed around that race really so thats why I chose it I saw the race but wanted to go a different path then the normal. I know Fighter lvls would be an option becuase of the feats though you don't need it since you can get Weapon Specialization already. I just providing a basic layout mix it up spice it up change it up how ever you want I like it this way. One thing 12 Monk gives you is 22 SR which I think can not be reduced so you always have 22 SR.

[the1kobra]

If you want to use Zenthryi for a CC blackguard, I wouldn't go the smiter route. Not having a charisma bonus is going to hurt, and you're going to be stretched very thin. The wis bonus helps get all the spells, and the STR and DEX bonuses are nice, but I don't think a smiter blackguards and Zenthryis agree. I would reccomend making a dex based hybrid lasher. You won't get the smites, but you will have a significant boost to your defense, and you should be able to hit harder as well with the lasher inflictions. You'd probably want to have your stats sorted out like this:
14/15/14/14/12/8 (Human)
18/19/14/14/16/8 (Zeny)
Then pump your dex high. I have a lasher that works along a similar vein of building, using kobold, it should come out better with Zeny though.

Though if you do go with the normal BG, 22 SR doesn't mean a lot, most monsters are going to be able to beat that and 1s don't mean an auto-failure for spell penetration. The feats would be more suitable, or even take paladin levels, as they give you more damage on your smiting, and more casterlevels for your BG spells.

[Yojimbo]

Just a note I would likely change this to be 11 Monk/29 Blackguard or 9 Monk/30 Blackguard/1 Fighter. Note this follows very closely my current Blackguard build I am using which I will post after I finally get it to 60 and do atleast the 1st lvl of Hell.

[Yojimbo]

So I have reworked this build and updated the first post to show what might be a viable STR Unarmed or Dual Wielder BG w/ Greater Smiting.

I was bored its been slow at work lol.

Main Changes:
#1 Zenythri to Hound Archon the stats just were too costly on Zenythri
#2 Dropped Divine Shield as you would only get a KB Shield which can be dangerous, Divine Damage Immunity which would be minor, and a source of Dodge AC which isn't all that needed.
#3 Dropped from 12 Monk to 3 and picked up 9 Ranger for Dual Wield feats and more AB.

Still need to do some more math to figure all the final numbers but it actually looks workable though I'm scared the AC is going to end up ugly w/o 2x Demi & a WIS Arti. You won't get the UBAB bonus unless your in Robes and you lose Ranger Dual Wield feat in anything greater than Light Armor.

[Torin]

For an STR dual wielder monk style, you could check out if dual-ling dwarven axes with Dwarven defender splash and +12 AC would be an option. I'm thinking of 30 BG x Monk y DD, Just a thought..

[Yojimbo]

Updated numbers and added 2 skill point setups for unarmed and dual wielders. I tested in the chamber damage seemed good on it and the changes to gloves to let them be buffed should help this build out. The AC is garbage so it is all about immunities and concealment. I max out hide so you can get some good conceal going a bit easier.