Elven Warder (60 ranger)

[Lythe Featherblade]

If you can find something else feel free, though because you're limited to ranger feats for that slot, you're very limited for options. Personally I miss the tiny boost of blinding speed on the characters that don't have it, and it does stack with freedom of movement.

Another enemy doesn't hurt, if you can think of one, such as elves if you like to help out on Llolth runs.

[Talamanthalon]

For the build you posted, what should my ending stats be? Should I take all skill ups in Dex + Great Dex 10?

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"Lycan" (secret UltraRare; changes Appearance)
- DEX +4, CON +2, CHA -2, free feat: Dodge, free feat: Improved Initiative, 10% vulnerable piercing, regenerates 4hp/round, increased base movement rate - fast

Base race human

Starting stats (including racial mods):
str 8 dex 20 con14 int14 wis16 cha6

Follow the Generic Variant, and pre-20 because you already have dodge, bump everything up and then take extended spell at level 18.

Your last 2 great dex feats (levels 57,60) consider swapping for great wis, it'll mean trading 1ab for 3ac (136ac in UR -> 139 in UR)

Final stats would be (geared) str 20 dex 58 con 28 int 14 wis 30 cha 6

[Lythe Featherblade]

talamanthalon said:

For the build you posted, what should my ending stats be? Should I take all skill ups in Dex + Great Dex 10?

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Your last 2 great dex feats (levels 57,60) consider swapping for great wis, it'll mean trading 1ab for 3ac (136ac in UR -> 139 in UR)

Final stats would be (geared) str 20 dex 58 con 28 int 14 wis 30 cha 6

Those are your final stats if you go to great dex 6 and take 2 great wis feats, and yes, all levelup stats do go into dex.

Gear for the above is taking into account +12 str, dex, con, wis.

Unmodified stats will be str 8 dex 46 con 16 int 14 wis 18 cha 6

[Chaos]

Currently level 31 with this toon and I am loving every minute of playing it. I have 94 base AC and 95 with buffs which is doing me well this early in the build. Thank you lythe for this fantastic build!

Chaos

[goraxe]

for sure ditto on chaos' post. but I have a question. not sure if this should be in the bug topic but here goes. I tried this on multiple targets. when I attempt a called shot on undead it says immune to critical hits and they make no roll vs death. also is the reptilian humanoid favored enemy strictly for sithrak runs or is there lizardfolk in hell? another question is. if you max listen, why would you need blindfight?

[mistoffoles]

I love this build was having lots of difficulty with what to build to survive on HG and came across this build and it so happens that I had Thri-kreen subby. Went pure ranger and have enjoyed it very much although the "immune to crit" creatures out there tend to be numerous you still feel good when you see one thats not immune to crits fall to your called shot.

Currently tagged to the 3rd lvl of Hell (forget name at the moment)

[Lythe Featherblade]

Crit immune are immune to called shot. But on the bright side you have all that extra positive damage from bladethirst against favorite enemies.

Think reptilian humanoids is sithrak only.. you get enough that it's worth it.

Listen will only give the offensive benefits beyond blindfighting, not the defensive. I tend to be a very defensive builder myself, though not sure if using the dex arti for blind immune will cover the defensive part.

[fraglord85]

Question1: What Sub would u choose for pure Dex ranger if u could pick 1 of the following subs,

Pixie
Thri-Kreen
Wraith
Doppleganger
Planewalker
Aleithian Dwarf

Question2:Why 18 base Wisdom before 60?

And could u post a build with it ?

well maybe this sounds stupid but what im mostly looking for =saves 63+ ab 90+ ac 115+ not bad HP and Great dex X if possible!

and what weapon should i pick thats best for a pure ranger to dual wield for beginners i know all stuff is the same but some are harder to get then others > (if u can do DB what weapon would u pick for the ranger) thats about my questions heh

Greets Frag

Edit: i tried short sword light hammer mace and katana (im a halfling and lose 2 more AB then on kukri when i duel wield so aint it best to go with Kukri?My preferance goes to katana, i dont mind the AB loss at all but if i cant get 90+ ab with it then i have to pick something else)

Could try to get Nobarian then i dont think i lose -4 AB but -2 cause im large sized then

[..[Sirloin]..]

I would prefer Planewalker of those. It gives good stats for all dex builds and both ring slots are free.
It doesn't change your appearance either so you're still able to craft your appearance.

Wisdom gives shield AC to offhand weapon when dualwielding. Dunno if there are any other reasons for the 18 wisdom tho.

Good dualwielding weapons are rapiers I think. At least when you're medium sized.

[fraglord85]

sirloin said:

I would prefer Planewalker of those. It gives good stats for all dex builds and both ring slots are free.
It doesn't change your appearance either so you're still able to craft your appearance.

Wisdom gives shield AC to offhand weapon when dualwielding. Dunno if there are any other reasons for the 18 wisdom tho.

Good dualwielding weapons are rapiers I think. At least when you're medium sized.

i have to disagree with the rapier > when ur medium sized Rapiers and katana will give u -4 ab > so that why i thought that gnome sub with 4 dex 4 con large size would be nice if i had other weapons in mind

[bort]

I believe the original poster uses light maces:

[benwizzle]

forgive me if im wrong but i dont see greater weapon focus in here anywhere

[MightyKhan]

the build was made before GWF even existed in the game, so you are not wrong

[Li'l Rose]

Well, I have reincarnated my main character Crystal, and I have rebuilt her using this build, and the Stargazer subrace. I had to make a few small changes to allow me to dual weild katanas. I switched blindfight and toughness for exotic weapons and greater weapon focus. In legendary levels, I took great dex 7 and 8 instead of the iron will feats.

Because this build only goes up to level 60, there are some things I am not sure about. Mainly I'm not sure which feats to take for the paragon levels. I am thinking of taking the last two great dex feats, and all of the self concealment feats. Is this a good way to spend my paragon feats, or should I focus more on getting some more save feats? I am of the opinion, that with a bard in the party, the save feats are not needed as much.

Thank you for any help or suggestions you may have.

[Paradoom]

Make a new post with your build rose and it can be analyzed. Without seeing the numbers (ab, saves etc. at level 60 at least) of your build this cannot be answered well.

Just so much I can say: A bard will not help you making your saves at all, because normally you max out your universal saves with your gear (+20 to saves). The saves bonus the song gives you is inside that cap.