the Righteous Talon(55Druid/4Paladin/1Monk)

[Rain]

Spell Description is wrong again it seems. Lesser restoration shouldn't be able to restore immunity decrease according to it yet it actually does after a test.

[uncanny]

Apr 11, 2011 13:20:22 GMT Rain said:

Spell Description is wrong again it seems. Lesser restoration shouldn't be able to restore immunity decrease according to it yet it actually does after a test.

I don't see any adjustment (though can't get ingame to read actual); but here's the NWN description:

Removes all magical, extraordinary, and supernatural effects that apply a penalty to ability scores, armor class, attack and damage rolls, spell resistance, and saving throws. This spell will not remove the effects of a curse or a disease.

So.. while it doesn't come out and say it doesn't, it doesn't seem to say it does either.

[jonuhey]

I thnk it was changed in HG to do that, so reading nwnwiki wont help on this matter

But its just a guess.

[uncanny]

Apr 11, 2011 15:35:31 GMT @jonuhey said:

I thnk it was changed in HG to do that, so reading nwnwiki wont help on this matter

But its just a guess.

If it was.. it's not in the spell changes docs. But then I'm only looking at the online docs, not ingame

Lesser Restoration
- Is now a Paladin and Ranger spell with HG Enhanced.
- May be cast as a swift action.

Either way.. it works for removing reduction, and thank gods for that

[dragonledak]

Another thing, while I think this is a interesting build concept it seems there is not much benefit going the stormlord option because of the huge dex requirements. Going with anarch you can get a very high wisdom score, wep spec and epic spec not to mention armor skin. Higher dc and using the item wiki.hgweb.org/wiki/Claws_of_the_Dragon you get fighter LLBAB.

[Rain]

Apr 14, 2011 1:23:27 GMT dragonledak said:

Another thing, while I think this is a interesting build concept it seems there is not much benefit going the stormlord option because of the huge dex requirements. Going with anarch you can get a very high wisdom score, wep spec and epic spec not to mention armor skin. Higher dc and using the item wiki.hgweb.org/wiki/Claws_of_the_Dragon you get fighter LLBAB.

Not really.

First, Wisdom does nothing except to boost DC(Wisdom gives NO AC bonus at all).

Second, on this build I can easily pick epic wep spec cuz I have lots of free feats to spare. Moreover, I even picked "Superior Critical: Unarmed Strike" which is impossible to get on a normal wisdom focus'ed dragon due to your low dex.

Lastly, "Storm of Veagence" cast by a Stormlord gives the following bonus:
1>. increases Legendary BAB to that of a fighter if the caster has at least three levels in 1/1 BAB classes.(exactly what that glove can give)
2>. +2 extra attacks per round.(this is a big deal)
3>. a physical damage bonus of 1 for every casterlevel above 40.(this is planned but not implemented yet)

Also Stormlord can cast a better version of Shock Weapon(+2 more dice than a normal Druid).

Anyway, I agree the extra DC from higher wis is nice for wingbuffet and dragon breath, but that's not the build I want. Keep in mind this is a Stormlord melee tank who wins damage by steady DPS from claws instead of a dragon shifter who spams breath which is quite restricted by EP.

[Torin]

I've thinking again on this build: Dragons are huge, the size modifier is -2 for AC & AB. Problem.

[Rain]

AB on the combat log is 101 in the test chamber even without demi stat so is actually a lot better than most x5demi tanks.

AC as a non-demi is 130 with the size penalty, while 135 at x2demi, 137 with girding. you have epic dodge, self concealment as druid and high parry skill. I don't really any problem in it. It's from the screenie I posted, so I have to make sure if I miss any buff or if I've actually any change to the test build there. The real problem for this build to take effect is the size as I mentioned, you'll just make every single caster player hate you.

[louisvilleslugger]

Dragon tanks make me cry.

[Torin]

Skills: you sure want (and sure have done it) to take Craft Weapon for AB. I'm just making a Druid Dragon like yours and gonna ditch Animal Emp.

[Rain]

Don't think I took Craft Weapon on the test toon, though he has 101ab even without CW, then what does it matter?

Animal Empathy on the other hand is personally a Must-have skill for Dragons. There's a huge difference between 0 AE and max AE when you use dragon breath. Even if this build isnot to rely on dragon breath for damage, still breath can do some incredible damage output on either a swarm of mob or boss-like mob who has high concealment/AC. 55 Druid lvl grants you enough EP to do breath for quite a while so it's kinda a huge waste not to use it. Wait till you see a superior/elite ichor/firstborn and asmo then you'll realise the true power of dragon breath.

[Torin]

Thanks Rain, I had overseen that.
*Torin tumbles back to documents to maximizes the build, again*