Bin Laden is Dead

[FunkySwerve]

...and Obama is announcing it during Celebrity Apprentice's airtime, frabjous day. Maybe now we can finally get the hell out of Afghanistan.


Funky

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Higher Ground responds:


news agencies reporting that bin laden is dead and that the US has his body for confirmation
- Treveylan Quinsbrillo (Bazukar), 1 hour, 33 mins ag

yup shot in the head by a cia ground strike team
- Sylindria WoodsWalker †RM†(Elgrath Forestwalker), 1 hour, 32 mins ago

did he drop any good loot?
- Enius the White (legaldeeds), 1 hour, 31 mins ago

no just an +2 Ak-47 
- Nimbus †RM†(Zybang), 1 hour, 30 mins ago

Sorry, I accidently rezzed him...
- Az's Six Feet Under (azpride), 55 mins ago

[Hercules]

Sorry, I accidently rezzed him...
- Az's Six Feet Under (azpride), 55 mins ago

Hes been disintergrated.
Can't be done.He needs a true ress cast by a cleric lvl 80 just to make sure theese things dont happen "accidently"




Herc

[tomaan]

and Obama is announcing it during Celebrity Apprentice's airtime

I wonder if Trump will take credit for this too?


But seriously.....incredible news.

My only point of concern is that this could potentially re-energize Al Qaeda, who's philosophies seem to be rejected by the secular democracy movements we're seeing in the middle east right now.

A focused, motivated Al Qaeda could take advantage of the chaos in these countries and establish stronger footholds than they have now. You could say the same about splinter groups, like the Salafi's in Palestine.

At any rate, this is an important battlefield win....let's just hope it leads to the end of the war.

[Werehound Silverfang]

Been bed ridden for the past 48 hours. Saw this on the news as it came in. Nice to know.

[uncanny]

Personally.. I don't see anything great in this. How would the war change if the president died? How much would it change if a general died? Not much. Same war, different faces. In fact, even westerners would become more frantic to harm the enemy in this case.. how will religious nuts behave?

Hell, he's already achieved his aim: the whole of the US is quaking in their boots at the thought of terrorists taking another aircraft, enough so that travel is a literal pita.

I don't mean to be disrespectful to the troops (I have a brother over in Iraq that I'd love to see come home); but this really changes nothing. Like a hydra, when one terrorist leader falls there are more to take over - and even more sleepers waiting for an event. The cynic in me is curious as to whether this is one of those sleeper events waiting in the wings...

[Enius the White]

Osama's tactical importance to the operations of Al Qaeada can be debated, and with the intelligence that was gathered at the scene, is yet to be determined. I suspect that he was pretty much in "hide for your life" mode for much of the last decade.

Osama's death will not bring back the 3,000 victims of Sept 11th, nor the 2,300 coalition fatalities, 10,000 U.S. personnel wounded, and $400 billion spent on the war in Afghanistan. It will not return the 4,400 U.S. personnel dead, 32,000 wounded, and $900 billion spent on the war in Iraq. The 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths and 10,000 civilian deaths in Afghanistan will, even now, only continue to grow.

Having said all that, the importance if this "win" is huge for the U.S. Maybe now the country can start to turn the page, and focus again on the things that made it a great nation. The technological inferiority of these types of terrorists is generally so profound that their only real power lies in their ability to impact the psyche of their enemy. If these terrorists can drag the US (or any other nation) into their backward thinking, close-minded, religio-militant stone age world, then they win. I can only hope that this well executed hit serves as the beginning of the final chapter of this small, sad part of American history.

[Test]

May 2, 2011 15:06:18 GMT @uncanny said:

Personally.. I don't see anything great in this. How would the war change if the president died? How much would it change if a general died? Not much. Same war, different faces. In fact, even westerners would become more frantic to harm the enemy in this case.. how will religious nuts behave?

I agree.

[FunkySwerve]

May 2, 2011 15:06:18 GMT @uncanny said:

Personally.. I don't see anything great in this. How would the war change if the president died? How much would it change if a general died? Not much. Same war, different faces. In fact, even westerners would become more frantic to harm the enemy in this case.. how will religious nuts behave?

This is silly enough that it's not worth the time to rebut - just flip on the t.v. What IS worth remark is that you refer to westerners and religious nuts as if they were non-overlapping circles in a ven diagram .

Funky

[MightyKhan]

1. Osama Bin Laden
2. Waldo
3. Carmen Sandiego

[uncanny]

May 3, 2011 5:21:32 GMT FunkySwerve said:

May 2, 2011 15:06:18 GMT @uncanny said:

Personally.. I don't see anything great in this. How would the war change if the president died? How much would it change if a general died? Not much. Same war, different faces. In fact, even westerners would become more frantic to harm the enemy in this case.. how will religious nuts behave?

This is silly enough that it's not worth the time to rebut - just flip on the t.v. What IS worth remark is that you refer to westerners and religious nuts as if they were non-overlapping circles in a ven diagram .

Funky

You mean the terrorists that they interviewed who said "yes, now that Bin Laden is dead, we will leave the great American war machine alone, we give up"? And if you believe any western news channel, I've got this great bridge to sell you.

By the way.. it's spelled venn . It helps to spell things right when trying to sound offhand. Pedantic, I know; but there it is. And no, I don't believe they would overlap since there is a lot that eastern religious nuts and western culture don't share; such as the sanctity of life (arguable), the whole Jihad thing, clean underwear..

But if you have actual evidence that this will make a difference, I'd be pleased to revise my statement.

[kaldair]

What Enius said ...

Kaldair

[Crazy]

On the radio yesterday they had the former head of the CIA's Bin laden unit, forget his name, who has written 4 books on him (how much repetition is that? )

Basically he said that it is a symbolic victory, but in the long run it will not have a significant impact. The way they structure themselves there is a set chain of succession, since they expect to have a high mortality rate. Meaning there will not be infighting that would lead to a collapse or weakening.

Also said he would be praised for his death, dying fighting the US... not sure what the alternative would be for him not to be praised, die of old age? beaten to death with barbie dolls?

On a side note burying the body at sea hours after his death was stupid, sounds like a mistake was made. Besides the conspiracy theorists that would be fed easily by that, the radical Muslim community will keep saying that he is alive, and using his name for their purpose. Seems like a picture on the front page with a bullet in his head would have been a better option.

edit - This is a victory, don't get me wrong. My hesitance is for the idiots writing political columns that now want to pull out of the middle east. One idiot (column writer) said that we should not call the war in the middle east a war anymore now that bin laden is dead (does that make it an occupation?).... Don't forget we still have Iran to deal with.

[CataclysmicDeath]

May 3, 2011 6:32:11 GMT MightyKhan said:

1. Osama Bin Laden
2. Waldo
3. Carmen Sandiego

You forgot Asmodeus and Pelor

Cata

[jonuhey]

May 3, 2011 6:32:11 GMT MightyKhan said:

1. Osama Bin Laden
2. Waldo
3. Carmen Sandiego

Pic

Tried to use on this but couldnt :/ Maybe they dont want me to show their faces here

May 3, 2011 17:46:19 GMT CataclysmicDeath said:

You forgot Asmodeus and Pelor

Cata

But they died so many times in so many different ways