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Post by Shroomery_ on Jan 17, 2012 1:15:30 GMT
Need help. Not enjoying tanks at all, would like to have another caster toon to add to my druid. Wizard looks like the be all end all of the arcane, able to adapt to any environment with the correct foci. I wanted something a little different from the standard necro, trans, illusion, evo, conj wizards you see around so I took stargazers SF Div and made something of it. Didnt take greater ruin because I think this can handle most situations that need it fairly quickly. Let me know how I can improve.
NOTE: I wanna be able to make a few dex checks with this toon as well.
Elf: Stargazer STR: 8 DEX: 18 CON: 10 WIS: 8 INT: 18 CHA: 8
Pure Wizard
Read Spell Pen Book
Levels 1-20 SF Conjuration GSF Divination GSF Conjuration SF Evocation GSF Evocation SF Illusion GSF Illusion SF Transmutation GSF Transmutation Extend Spell Empower Spell
Levels 21-40 Great Int I - VIII ESF Conjuration ESF Transmutation ESF Divination ESF Evocation ESF Illusion
Levels 41-60 L Spell Pen LSF Illusion LSF Conjuration LSF Divination LSF Transmutation Great Int IX - X
Max Conc, Lore, Disc, CA, CW, Search, Tumble, Parry, Spellcraft and whatever else you deem neccessary.
How does it look? Shroomery_
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Post by chammernick on Jan 17, 2012 5:33:02 GMT
personal oppinion you really should have greater ruin, its entirely too good not to have, when those nasty randoms drop it makes for fast clearing, i doubt that any caster i would ever make would lack that as a spell due to sheer use of it, far too reliable, imagine play a toon with an assault rifle then a tank pops in front of u, your rounds arent peircing the armor on that tank, but if only you had a rocket launcher...lol at least thats how i look at it as a gun enthusiast
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Post by uncanny on Jan 17, 2012 7:55:52 GMT
I would plan on using an epic focus book: these are often low enough value that you can buy (10-50m is average) or just pick one in a Siss run and either trade or use. This will free up three feats (SF, GSF, ESF), though you will need the book before LSF can be taken. With these spare feats I would get Maximize, Epic Mage Armor, and Greater Ruin. Greater Ruin becomes twice per day with a base spellcraft of 50; Epic Mage Armor beyond a certain level gets you epic dodge and a nice ac boost (between epic dodge and conceal you'll find it easier to survive). With HG enhanced, silent and empower can do any spell even if not normally able, as with Maximize. This means you can put spells at multiple levels to get a higher slot count of things you really need. Errr.. just my own 2c anyhow
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Post by Raj on Jan 17, 2012 11:26:05 GMT
He's using a spell pen book. Pretty straight wizard build, my only concern is the lack of necromancy, paired with lack of ruin means you're not able to ''handle most situations that need it fairly quickly'' . I'd give up LSF:Div, it only* gives you a soak bonus to Premonition up to +16, enough to soak pit fiends and similar big guys, but being pure your premonition is already good enough for the mayority of enemies, while Epic Warding from staff should work in the remote eventuality you end face to face with something too big for you. LSF:Trans is debateable too as it improves a single spell* while LSF:Evo would help gusts and a lot of frequently used aoe spells. To keep suggestions as simple as possible I'd just drop LSF:Div for LSF:Evo, nets you a plain gain. LSF:Trans -> Greater Ruin is a matter of preference. * = only one spell that matters
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Post by uncanny on Jan 17, 2012 13:58:46 GMT
Ok, sorry did not see that. That said.. I wouldn't wait for spell penetration on a primary caster, tbh. You shouldn't "really" get into trouble in lower levels up till mid epic even, but you will have difficulties and when you do it really bites. Lower DC on a chosen school for a time would be preferable, imho.
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Post by Shroomery_ on Jan 17, 2012 22:54:03 GMT
Raj, LSF Div was for PWK so I had a death magic spell. By what I heard you cast wierd first anyway and by time you have chance to cast the death spell the mobs hp will already be fairly low from dmg clouds and tanks smacking on them so PWK will do the job Trans for evo maybe?
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Post by Raj on Jan 18, 2012 17:20:21 GMT
Only up to ESF:Div is needed for elite monsters that can be killed by that spell
Any other use for pwk that's not ista killing is not optimal for a lvl9 slot, finish off monsters already beaten to badly wounded by tanks and dmg spells is just a show off.
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Post by gandoron on Jan 18, 2012 22:24:34 GMT
LSF and higher is needed for P4-P5 paragons, afaik. I used the Div tome on my PM before the Pale Night run. I needed a draught to PWK some of the paragons (we had a lot of p4-p5). However with SP issues, it's hard to know if it was perfect testing. Were, can you confirm? In EE higher paragons might be more likely, hard to know until we see coding.
-Graham
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Post by Raj on Jan 19, 2012 7:53:39 GMT
Well I can confirm that too but those things aren't fixed in game yet and we're still talking about a guy on his first sorc
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