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Post by Shroomery_ on Jan 18, 2012 5:59:39 GMT
I need this build reviewed, mostly the starting stats and spell selection. I would like to fit a summon in there somewhere to help tank for when I want to solo somewhere, let me know what would be easily replaced for a summon and if it is worth it!
ANYTHING IN BOLD I NEED HELP WITH!
Human: Shade (-1str, -1con, +1int, +2cha) STR: ? DEX: ? CON: ? WIS: ? INT: ? CHA: ? (I would like even stats, need help with this. Would love a high dex!)
Pure Sorcerer (40 Sorcerer)
Skills: What should I take? I know concentration and lore for sure, what else?
Use Evocation Book and Shield Pandect!
Pre-Epic Feats: SF, GSF Illusion SF, GSF Transmutation GSF Necromancy Greater Spell Penetration Extend Spell Empower Spell
Epic Feats: Great Charisma 1-8 ESF Trans, Necro, Illusion Epic Spell Penetration Extra Spell Known (9)
Legendary Feats: Great Charisma 9-10 Legendary Spell Penetration LSF Transmutation LSF Evocation LSF Necromancy LSF Illusion
Spells: 1-Horizkauls Boom, Endure Elements, Exped Retreat, Ray of Enfeeblement, Ice Dagger, Prot from Align
2-Flame Weapon, Shock Weapon, GV, Melfs Acid Arrow, CoB, Darkness
3-Gust of Wind, Scint Sphere, Neg Burst, Clarity, Slow
4-Bestow Curse, Enervation, Remove Curse, Evards, Wall of Fire
5-Vitriolic Sphere, Energy Buffer, Lesser Mantle, Lesser MB, Wrack
6-Ethreal Visage, Disintigrate, Circle of Death, Undeath to Death
7-Thunderclap, Delayed Fireball, Rebuke, Banishment
8-Polar Ray, Premonition, Horrid Wilting, Sunburst
9-Wierd, Energy Drain, Bigbys Clenched Fist, Wail of the Banshee, Mordenkainen's Disjunction
Little help please?
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Post by Raj on Jan 18, 2012 7:52:04 GMT
stats: str 8(7) dex 14 con 13 (12) int 11 (12) wis 8 cha 18 (20)
Enough int to max 4 skills, such as lore/conc and crossclass disc/tumble; should put some points in spellcraft just to counterspell ( the more the merrier, but max DC is 24 so 1 is enough if you rely on friendly bard song and suppose you're not cursed ).
Spell list is overall fine, just a consideration: you have both wail and cod as aoe death spells, that's a bit of a waste tbh expecially considering it costed you a feat; you list PfA/Banish/Darkness/Rebuke so I get this is a definitive spell list for the hardest areas of the server ... then get PW:Kill at 9 and you're set.
Summons: what I did at my last visit at the spell pedestal was dropping u2d to get freezing sphere, for a aoe cold spell, then there's no great need for polar ray at 8 so you can free that slot for greater planar binding. I don't regret it at all as I found u2d of very limited use just for Ely, elsewhere dmg spells and/or sunburst do the same job better; freezing sphere is more versatile slots-wise and requires lot less aim than polar ray.
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Post by fallenwizard on Jan 18, 2012 8:36:31 GMT
Getting the shield pandect is about shot 1 in a 100 per each Min run you do - unless you alrdy have one, I wouldnt count on it while making a build. Extremely hard to trade for aswell. U2D is nice spell to have for uro/dulv aswell, but those you can cope with DFB spam, just takes few more casts. Ely runs where the U2D is awesome spells are 1. rare, 2. necro cleric can do it, 3 there often is another mage who might have it, with even higher dc if PM/pariah.
So what Raj said I'd swap that for freezing sphere, just because it is one of the 3 best damage spells togther with clap and dfb.
I'd drop leg trans for shield profiency. By the time you have shield pandect you should have bur subs to upgrade into at least something relatively working bur, like hound archor or such.
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Post by Raj on Jan 18, 2012 10:46:09 GMT
Ah right missed the unlikely chance for a min pandect but you can hope to get a eramus amulet or swap some shield prof gear and use the ur-ward. If this was my first sorc withouth stockpiled gear I'd consider takign the prof as feat, or splash.
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Post by anar12 on Jan 18, 2012 11:00:11 GMT
Alternatively you can use a trick where you wear something with shield prof feat, put on Ur Ward and then take off the first item and it should stick.
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Post by Shroomery_ on Jan 18, 2012 16:34:13 GMT
Best way to do the stats to keep all of them even? I want an even number on all of em, I am picky that way
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Post by Shroomery_ on Jan 18, 2012 16:46:16 GMT
This is what I got for spells then!
9- Wierd, Energy Drain, Bigby, Meteor, Mord 8- Greater Planar Binding, Horrid Wilting, Premonition, Sunburst 7- Thunderclap, Delayed Fireball, Rebuke, Banishment 6- Ethreal Visage, Disintigrate, Circle of Death, Freezing Sphere 5- Vitriolic Sphere, Energy Buffer, Lesser Mantle, Lesser MB, Wrack 4 - Bestow, Enervate, Remove Curse, Evards, Wall of Fire 3- Gust, Scint Sphere, Neg Burst, Clarity, Slow 2- Flame, Shock Weapon, GV, Melfs, Darkness, CoB 1- Horizkauls Boom, Endure, Exped, Ray of Enfeeble, Ice Dagger, PfA
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Post by Raj on Jan 18, 2012 16:54:54 GMT
Best way to do the stats to keep all of them even? I want an even number on all of em, I am picky that way Don't play a shade or ask for a unoptimal skills spread.
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Post by Shroomery_ on Jan 18, 2012 16:59:50 GMT
Ill just work it out then, no need to jump on me about it, thanks.
Shroomery
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Post by Raj on Jan 18, 2012 17:08:18 GMT
You have an effective +1 to stats at creation so the only way to even them out is to invest a odd amount of points into charisma ( 17 ) and take one less great cha feat. Play a Rakshasa.
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Post by Shroomery_ on Jan 18, 2012 17:11:42 GMT
I like toons I can craft, so im stuck with shade.
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Post by Raj on Jan 18, 2012 17:17:59 GMT
if keeping even stats is that much important then str 9 (8) dex 14 con 13 (12) int 11 (12) wis 10 cha 17 (19), take great cha up to IX and the spare feat can be courteous magocracy.
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Post by darc on Jan 18, 2012 18:18:09 GMT
Shade Sorc build with even stat spread: LINK
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Post by Shroomery_ on Jan 18, 2012 18:58:48 GMT
What would my ac look like with a 10 dex with bur robes + ur ward and bur gear/tia gear?
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Post by Yojimbo on Jan 18, 2012 19:00:24 GMT
AC is irrelevent for a caster soak and conceal are your defense along with run away and hide.
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