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Post by FromWayBack on Feb 24, 2012 4:19:19 GMT
I have a lowbie dragon storm mage (34) that is currently being reinced to fix a level mis-hap and would like some input. I am limited to open subraces, and would like to fit evocation, illusion, spell pen, extend, empower, max, 10 cha and possibly trans. Any way to do this with an open subrace? For those who dont know my base build and the feats they get, here you go:
30sorcerer/10blue dragon disciple
No yuan-ti please, super ugly!
01: One or Two Feats!
03: One Feat!
06: One Feat!
09: One Feat!
12: One Feat!
15: One Feat!
18: One Feat!
21: One Feat!
24: One Feat!
27: One Feat!
30: One Feat!
33: Two Feats!
36: Two Feats!
39: Two Feats!
42: One Feat!
45: One Feat!
48: One Feat!
51: One Feat!
54: One Feat!
57: One Feat!
60: One Feat!
thanks much for help!
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Post by desocupado on Feb 24, 2012 12:50:44 GMT
Evocation (4 feats)
Spell pen (4 feats) (learn epic version with the tome at 41)
extend, empower, max (3 feats)
Great Cha (10 feats)
DSM requirement (1 feat)
Illusion (4 feats - not worth it due SR of the good Weird targets)
Trans (3 feats - not THAT worth due disintegrate not working without CL)
Total: 22-29
Given Sorc 29 xDD 10 Pal 1 (reduce one feat if Sorc 26 xDD 13 Pal 1)
Total feats with open subrace = 7+7+7 +3/epic bonus +3/tome of wisdom = 27
Races overview:
Elf/Drow Male (-1 str -5 con +2 int +2 cha +2dex)has elf' as able learner
Half-elf: Nereidkin (-1 str -2 int +2 cha) - breathes underwater
Half-elf: Nymphkin (-1 dex -1 wis +2cha) - no glaring weakness
Gnome: Fire Gnome (-2 str +2 cha Firewalking +2 skill per level and SF Illusion)
Nymphkin is the most balanced and recomendable.
A fire gnome can achieve LSF Illusion easily, leaving 2 feats, if you drop one of the metamagic, you can have wall as well.
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Post by redbeard on Feb 25, 2012 22:29:12 GMT
Desocupado's list is a bit confusing (at least to me). The Spell Pen tome gives the first three spell pen feat (SP, GSP, ESP) leaving only legendary to take when leveling up.
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Post by Shroomery_ on Feb 25, 2012 23:37:36 GMT
Decided to help,here you go.
Gnome Fire Gnome start str8 dex14 con12 wis8 int12 cha18
pre epic feats: gsf illusion, sf evo gsf evo, extend, empower, resist elec, maximize
epic feats: sf gsf esf trans, esf illusion evocation, g cha 1-4, epic spell known(your choice)
legendary feats: read spell pen book, l spell pen, lsf evo illusion, g cha 5-8
skills: max conc lore disc parry tumble and rest to spellcraft
sorry its sloppy im at my gfs on my ps3 haha
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Post by desocupado on Feb 26, 2012 10:57:25 GMT
Desocupado's list is a bit confusing (at least to me). The Spell Pen tome gives the first three spell pen feat (SP, GSP, ESP) leaving only legendary to take when leveling up. Given what he wanted, this is the build he might be looking at: Gnome: Fire Gnome (-2 str +2 cha Firewalking +2 skill per level and SF Illusion) Pre-epic (total 8 - 7/leveling +1/firegnome): SF Illusion (gnome bonus) GSF Illusion SF Evocation GSF Evocation Metamagic Empower Metamagic Maximize Resist energy: Electricity Epic feats (7/leveling + 3/epic sorcerer) ESF Evocation ESF Illusion Great Charisma +8 Legendary (7/leveling + 1*/tome) (read Spell Penetration Tome) Legendary Spell Penetration LSF Evocation Great Cha +2 SF Transmutation GSF Transmutation ESF Transmutation |
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Post by FromWayBack on Feb 27, 2012 3:22:16 GMT
I like both of your builds but I think I am gonna use Shroomery's. Thanks!
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Post by simpetar on Feb 27, 2012 8:10:06 GMT
I suggest taking 1 pally level, especially for an open subby character. You get to use (caster) shields and medium armors, discipline bump and your saves will leap into the realm of survivability. There are some drawbacks: loss of 1 SP (but DSM innate bonus makes up for it), loss of Epic Dodge from EMA (not that you took it anyways) and use of the Thids helm. The added benefits are so much bigger though.
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