Digs Wis Threader (26Clr/14WM)

[digs]

Digs WIS Threader

(26Clr/14WpM)

About

This is my lifethreader build. I decided when I built this LT that he would be Wisdom based despite some of the negative things that come with that. So if you're stubborn like I am and you want a Wisdom based threader then I invite you to take a look at my build and share your thoughts. Please don't suggest that I make him Str or Dex based.

Set max spell level with commands !dam1 through !dam9
Set damages with !damsl, !damma

Why 26/14 instead of 20/20? 26 Cleric levels gets you an improved Divine Power (addition attack + Fighter LBAB), Improved Prayer (-1), an Epic spell, max dice Darkfire & Frost Weapon, slightly faster FoM, and .5 increase to your Healing multiplier.

Requirements

The only thing required to make this build is the Undying subrace
This build does not require demi bonuses

Info

• Lifethreading DC: 58 Fort
  
• Lifethreading Damage: 381 per round (failed save)
  
• Lifethreading Healing: 444 hp per round
  
• Damage Types: Physical & Magic
  
• Saves: 66F/67R/77W
  
• AB/AC: 99 AB, 135 AC (145 AC in Imp. Expertise)
  
• 28% Chance of not draining a spell with Threads of Life
  

Alignment

Any Evil (Allows use of Gift of Undeath ring for Critical Immunity)

Race

Race: Elf

• DEX +2, CON-2
  
• Immunity: Sleep

Subrace: Undying

• STR +2, DEX +2, CON +4, INT +2, WIS +2, CHA +2
  
• Free Feats: Dodge, Luck of Heroes, Great Fortitude, Iron Will, Lightning Reflexes
  
• +3 skill points per legendary level

Abilities

	Base	Race1	Undying	L602	+14	Demi	2xDemi	Arti	Mod
STR	14	14	16	16	30	32	34	34	12
DEX	14	16	18	18	32	34	36	36	13
CON	10	8	12	12	26	28	30	30	10
INT	14	14	16	16	30	32	34	34	12
WIS	16	16	18	46	60	62	64	66	28
CHA	8	8	10	10	24	26	28	28	9

¹This is what you should see during character creation
²20 Stat Points: All in WIS

Skills

Intimidate	4	Required for Weapon Master
Heal	63	For Threading damage/healing
Discipline	63	For Discipline checks
Listen	43	Increases chances of hitting concealed enemies
Tumble	60	+12 AC
Craft Armor	63	Adds 1-3 AC
Concentration	31	For Concentration checks

• Consider dropping CA improve Parry

Feats[/li][/ul]

Free Feats

1.	Dodge
2.	Luck of Heroes
3.	Great Fortitude
4.	Iron Will
5.	Lightning Reflexes

Pre Epic (7)

1.	Blooded	Required for LSA Tumble
2.	WF: Sickle	Required for Weapon Master
3.	Mobility	Required for Weapon Master
4.	Spring Attack	Required for Weapon Master
5.	Expertise	Required to use a double-sided weapon
6.	Whirlwind	Required for Weapon Master
7.	Intuitive Attack

Epic (7+2+1 Bonus)

1.	EWF: Sickle
2.	Epic Prowess
3.	Great Wisdom 1
4.	Great Wisdom 2
5.	Great Wisdom 3
6.	Great Wisdom 4
7.	Great Wisdom 6

1.	Great Wisdom 5
2.	Great Wisdom 7

1.	Armor Skin

Legendary (7)

1.	LSA: Tumble
2.	Legendary Weapon Focus
3.	Extend Spell
4.	Great Wisdom 8
5.	Legendary Fort
6.	Legendary Reflexes

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[td] 7. [/td]
[td] Improved Expertise [/td]
[/tr][/table][/blockquote]Attack Bonus (AB)

16	BAB
10	EBAB
15	LBAB (L41+ Divine Power)
1	Weapon Focus
2	Epic weapon Focus
1	Epic Prowess
3	Legendary Weapon Focus
3	Weapon Master
28	WIS Mod
20	Buffs
99	Total

Armor Class (AC)

10	Base
17	Deflection	Bur Cloak, Gloves, Belt, Helm
16	Natural	Tia Amulet
2	AC Base Armor	Threads of Life
18	AC Armor Bonus	Threads of Life
3	Shield Base	Asmo Shield
18	Shield AC	Asmo Shield
12	Tumble
2	Armor Skin
11	DEX Bonus
2	Craft Armor
20	Dodge
4	Girding	Epic Spell
135	Total

Saves

Fortitude

21	Base
5	Legendary Saves
8	CON Mod
20	Bonus
1	Luck of Heroes
2	Great Fortitude
7	Legendary Fortitude
2	Double Demi
66	Total

Reflex

19	Base
5	Legendary Saves
11	DEX Mod
20	Bonus
1	Luck of Heroes
2	Lightning Reflexes
7	Legendary Reflexes
2	Double Demi
67	Total

Will

21	Base
5	Legendary Saves
25	WIS Mod
1	Luck of Heroes
2	Iron Will
20	Bonus
2	Double Demi
77	Total

Gear

Helm	Visor of Vigilance	Defensive Awareness II, +14 STR/WIS/CHA, ESF: Listen, Disc/Conc/Listen
Cloak	Cloak of the Axerian Grandmaster	Spells, +12 DEX, 10% Phys, Heal/Disc/Conc
Armor	Threads of Life	Wis Mod% Chance to not drain spell, 18 AC, Phys Imm, Phys Resists, Heal/Disc/Conc
Shield	Rampart of the Pact Primeval	18 AC, +20 Soak 10, Phys/Elem Immunities, Exotic Resists, Imm: Implode, BB
Belt	Belt of the Axerian Grandmaster	Spells
Boots	Pads of the Shadows	Elemental Resists, Imm: Poison & Disease, +3d6 Sneak, Disc
Gloves	Manacles of Mephistopheles	+14 STR/CON, Phys/Magic/Fire Imm
Amulet	Amulet of the Axerian Grandmaster	Spells, Heal/Disc/Conc

This gear setup lacks +14 DEX. Use an Augmenter of Precision Sickle Work to add Improved & Power Critical.

[digs]

Leveling Guide

Cleric Domains: Healing & Death

Lvl	Class	Feats	Skills	Abilities
1	Cleric	Blooded	Heal +4, Intimidate +2 (9 Remaining)
2	Cleric		Heal +1 (12 Remaining)
3	Cleric	Weapon Focus (Sickle)	Heal +1, Intimidate +1 (14 Remaining)
4	Cleric		Heal +1, (18 Remaining)	WIS +1
5	Cleric		Heal +1, Intimidate +1 (20 Remaining)
6	Cleric	Mobility	Heal +1 (24 Remaining)
7	Cleric		Heal +1, (28 Remaining)
8	Cleric		Heal +1, (32 Remaining)	WIS +1
9	Cleric	Spring Attack	Heal +1, (36 Remaining)
10	Cleric		Heal +1, (40 Remaining)
11	Cleric		Heal +1, (44 Remaining)
12	Cleric	Expertise	Heal +1, (48 Remaining)	WIS +1
13	Cleric		Heal +1, (52 Remaining)
14	Cleric		Heal +1, (56 Remaining)
15	Cleric	Whirlwind Attack	Heal +1, (60 Remaining)
16	Cleric		Heal +1, (64 Remaining)	WIS +1
17	Weapon Master	Weapon of Choice (Sickle)	Discipline +20, Listen +20, Heal +1 (28 Remaining)
18	Weapon Master	Intuitive Attack	Discipline +1, Listen +1, Heal +1 (30 Remaining)
19	Weapon Master		Discipline +1, Listen +1, Heal +1 (32 Remaining)
20	Weapon Master		Discipline +1, Listen +1, Heal +1 (34 Remaining)	WIS +1
21	Weapon Master	Epic Weapon Focus (Sickle)	Discipline +1, Listen +1, Heal +1 (36 Remaining)
22	Weapon Master		Discipline +1, Listen +1, Heal +1 (38 Remaining)
23	Weapon Master		Discipline +1, Listen +1, Heal +1 (40 Remaining)
24	Cleric	Epic Prowess	Heal +1 (44 Remaining)	WIS +1
25	Cleric		Heal +1 (48 Remaining)
26	Cleric		Heal +1 (52 Remaining)
27	Cleric	Great Wisdom I	Heal +1 (56 Remaining)
28	Weapon Master		Discipline +5, Listen +5, Heal +1 (50 Remaining)	WIS +1
29	Weapon Master		Discipline +1, Listen +1, Heal +1 (52 Remaining)
30	Weapon Master	Great Wisdom II	Discipline +1, Listen +1, Heal +1 (54 Remaining)1
31	Cleric		Heal +1 (58 Remaining)
32	Cleric		Heal +1 (62 Remaining)	WIS +1
33	Cleric	Great Wisdom III, Great Wisdom IV	Heal +1 (66 Remaining)
34	Cleric		Heal +1 (70 Remaining)
35	Cleric		Heal +1 (74 Remaining)
36	Cleric	Great Wisdom V, Great Wisdom VI	Heal +1 (78 Remaining)	WIS +1
37	Weapon Master		Discipline +7, Listen +7, Heal +1 (68 Remaining)
38	Weapon Master		Discipline +1, Listen +1, Heal +1 (70 Remaining)
39	Weapon Master	Armor Skin, Great Wisdom VII	Discipline +1, Listen +1, Heal +1 (72 Remaining)
40	Weapon Master		Discipline +1, Listen +1, Heal +1 (74 Remaining)	WIS +1
41	Cleric		Heal +1, Discipline +1 (78 Remaining)
42	Cleric	LSA: Tumble	Heal +1, Discipline +1 (82 Remaining)	WIS +1
43	Cleric		Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +46 (40 Remaining)
44	Cleric		Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (43 Remaining)	WIS +1
45	Cleric	Legendary Weapon Focus (Sickle)	Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (46 Remaining)
46	Cleric		Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (49 Remaining)	WIS +1
47	Cleric		Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (52 Remaining)
48	Cleric	Metamagic (Extend Spell)	Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (55 Remaining)	WIS +1
49	Cleric		Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (58 Remaining)
50	Cleric		Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (61 Remaining)	WIS +1
51	Cleric	Great Wisdom VIII	Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (64 Remaining)
52	Cleric		Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (67 Remaining)	WIS +1
53	Cleric		HHeal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (70 Remaining)
54	Cleric	Legendary Fortitude	HHeal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (73 Remaining)	WIS +1
55	Cleric		Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (76 Remaining)
56	Cleric		Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (79 Remaining)	WIS +1
57	Cleric	Legendary Reflexes	Heal +1, Discipline +1, Tumble +1 (82 Remaining)
58	Cleric		Heal +1, Discipline +1 (86 Remaining)	WIS +1
59	Cleric		Heal +1, Discipline +1 (90 Remaining)
60	Cleric	Improved Expertise	Heal +1, Discipline +1, Craft Armor +63, Concentration +31	WIS +1

[tagnusd]

Looks good. I love my wisdom based threader, moreso since I reinc at demi and took bullheaded and LSA: discipline. I might have missed something in your layout but you take Blooded and LSA:tumble, show tumble AC in your AC stats, but no tumble shows up in your skills listing. You also show maxed discipline but don't have LSA: discipline. Did I miss something?

[desocupado]

The following skills are good for threaders:
Concentration (about 30-ish can work)
Heal (max)
Tumble (60) - I think you've added CA instead by mistake on the post
Parry (as much as possible) - seems you are using the crit immunity ring all the time
Listen (as much as possible) - even without skill points you prob reach 60-ish
Disciple (as much as possible) - it's highly desirable to have a way to reach 120+

Your skill calculation seems to be confusing.
You have enough for almost 6 skills, i.e. 2/class 3/int 1/subby, you seem to be using Elf's able learner for disciple.

[digs]

Yeah it seems I forgot to add the 60 Tumble I took to the skill list. I'll look over the rest of the build tomorrow to see if there's anything else I may have looked over.

[desocupado]

Also, you should point out that threading with a level 1 spell and succeeded save does roughly 1/4 of that damage, i.e. Threading damage range is 95-381.

Some things I noticed:
-Prayer doesn't work well without CL/Spell pen, right? (I think it doesn't work that well with CL 46)
-There's Typo on "blooded" -> Bloodedk
-Due your class distribution you don't have Negative/Positive threading.
-I believe your pre-epic class leveling distribution is Cleric 16 then WM 4. Perhaps you should point this out.

All in all, it's good to see Undying being put to good use, since threader benefit a lot form improved saves and spread stat distribution.

[digs]

Update: added Leveling Guide, added Tumble to Skills list, fixed typo

[digs]

Deso is correct in that I am using Elf's 'able learner' ability to max out Discipline to 63.

[RedЯum [SL]]

which Cleric Domains ?
none are listed...

[Deleted]

Threader has to take Death and Healing - Quasi requirement.