Ranger Called Shot DC

[siryn]

I want to try an archer ranger.  Looking at the wiki all of the archer builds are Zen rangers  The section on rangers says the dc of your called shot is your ranger level + 1/2 your str/dex/wis modifier whichever is highest. Under wisdom rangers it says that maximizing wisdom allows them to get a massive called dc making them the best insta kill rangers. How is maxing wis any different than maxing str or dex?  I must be missing something because I don't see how a dex based archer with dex maxed is going to have a lower dc than a wis archer with wis maxed.  Can someone explain the mechanics for me =)

[louisvilleslugger]

May 20, 2015 15:23:23 GMT siryn said:

I want to try an archer ranger.  Looking at the wiki all of the archer builds are Zen rangers  The section on rangers says the dc of your called shot is your ranger level + 1/2 your str/dex/wis modifier whichever is highest. Under wisdom rangers it says that maximizing wisdom allows them to get a massive called dc making them the best insta kill rangers. How is maxing wis any different than maxing str or dex?  I must be missing something because I don't see how a dex based archer with dex maxed is going to have a lower dc than a wis archer with wis maxed.  Can someone explain the mechanics for me =)

If the Ranger has the Zen Archery feat and is using it, they add an additional (Wis modifier / 8) to the DC

[siryn]

Oh yep...somehow missed that line in the write up. Thank you =)

[Yojimbo]

You also get insane AC from it only issue is WIS doesn't work for melee so you can't make an Intuitive melee Called Shot DC ranger which is sad.

[hfb]

From the custom documents page on the forums:

Intuitive Attack
- Allows you to use your Wisdom modifier for Club, Dagger, Goad, Heavy Mace, Kama, Katar, Light Mace, Nunchaku, Quarterstaff, Scimitar, Shuriken, Sickle, and Spear. Requires BAB of +3 and at least 13 Wisdom.

Spear is a pretty nice choice since you can wear wiki.hgweb.org/wiki/Graz%27zt%27s_Abyssal_Helm for OC/DC spear.

[Yojimbo]

I have tested with Intuitive Attack and the Called Shot DC was based on DEX or STR which ever was higher and ignored my WIS which was higher than the other two combined. I think that should be fixed to allow a build much like you suggest hfb.

[Twilight Semner]

Spear is somewhat nice but spear rangers aren't WIS-based - they're STR-based.

[Matt]

You can make an interesting intuitive spear ranger, gets ac bonus still and 2h dmg. Although pierce is less than impressive almost everywhere. I think with wemic/zeny i could get one of these a str and dex check of about 46 while only dropping 2 DC overall which isnt bad imo.

[condude]

I believe that even if you are using intuitive attack, you still need the zen archery feat to have the wisdom bonus apply.

[chirality]

The DC is Ranger class level plus half the Ranger's Strength, Dexterity, or Wisdom (if using Zen Archery) modifier, whichever is highest. In addition, legendary Rangers receive +1 DC at Ranger 45 and 55. If the Ranger has the Zen Archery feat and is using it, they add an additional (Wis modifier / 8) to the DC.