Character creation help

[Badger]

Hello,

I usually play Dwarven Defenders but I was thinking of creating a Wizard and have a couple of questions.

1. Do Dwarves make good Wizards or should I choose another Race, and if so which one?

2. Should I go for 40 levels of Wizard or should I multi-class, and if so which one?

3. Not really a question but any spell suggestions would help.

I was leaning toward an Elven Wizard but I am partial to Dwarves, and a 40th level Wizard sounds good but I am not sure if it wise to do that.
Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Badgeraxe

[M.C. Menestrelle]

Badgeraxe,

It depends on if you're trying to create a character that suits you ... or if you're trying to create an uber wizard.

From your post, I would advise you to create a dwarf wizard (since you are partial to dwarves). He'll be unique. He may not get all the uber bonus' that a tweaked wizard would, but I guarantee that he would be powerful and fun to play.

Plus, since this server (it appears) has some jacked up items, you should be able to make up for any minor weaknesses from your race.

If you want an uber wizard (and I'm hoping you don't) then I can point you to an Epic Build that's been done to death on every munchkin server out there.

Be different ... make a dwarf. Just my opinion.

[Badger]

Thanks for the help M.C.. I think I will try a dwarven wizard, however, I would like to see the Epic Build that you mentioned. Also, if I do 40 levels of wizard will I learn all the spells that there are or will I have to choose? Pardon my ignorance but this is my first time with a spellcaster.

Thanks again,
Badgeraxe

[M.C. Menestrelle]

I believe at 20th level you get 9th level spells. As for memorizing ... any scroll you find or buy you can add to your spell book. So, what I usually do is get a print out of all the mage spells and highlight all the scrolls available for sale on the server.

When it comes time to select spells for any new level I choose non-highlighted spells. Then I go buy the scrolls for that level and add them to my spell book. You'll easily double your available spells.

First post. I found a dwarf build for you. The SD levels allow you to HIPS. So you can cast, hide, cast, hide.

Wizard 38/SD 2

Dwarf
str 10
dex 14
con 16
int 18
wis 8
chr 8

Wiz 19
SD 1
Wiz 19
SD 1

feats
1 Combat Casting
3
5 Spell Penetration
6 Empower Spell
9 Maximize spell
10 Gr Spell Penetration
12
15 dodge, Spell Focus Necromancy
18 mobility
21 Gr Int 1, Gr Int 2
24 Gr Int 3, Gr Int 4
27 Epic Mage Armor, Gr Int 5
30 Epic Spell Focus Necromancy, Imp Combat Casting
33 Epic Warding, Gr Int 6
36 Gr Int 7, Gr Int 8
39 Gr Int 9, Gr Int 10

Dwarf
str 10
dex 14
con 16
int 38
wis 8
chr 8

Skill points
Over 400 *I think* damn hard to figure out the skills a wiz with constantly shifting int gets
Conc - 42
Spellcraft - 42
Tumble - 40
Hide - 43
Move Silently - 43
Spot - 43
Listen - 43
Leaving over 100 skill points for whatever ya want.

[M.C. Menestrelle]

Another Dwarf MAGE build for you. I like this one.
nwn.bioware.com/guilds_registry/viewtopic.html?forum=13423&topic=178675&gid=8061
Mith gives the spells he'd take as this wizard. Great post.

This is the stereotypical mage, designed for party play, who hides behing a tank or two razing the ranks of the enemy with spellfire.

Advantages

-An unbuffed spell DC of 32+spell level when casting evocations. With his intelligence boosted (+12) he can raise that to 38+spell level.
-An unbuffed spell DC of 30+spell level when casting enchantments. With his intelligence boosted (+12) he can raise that to 36+spell level, mind fog can also be used to lower an opponents will save by 10.
-An unbuffed spell DC of 24+spell level in all other spell schools but conjuration. With his intelligence boosted (+12) he can raise that to 30+spell level.
-A 46+1D20 chance to beat spell resistance. Coupled with Mordenkainen's disjunction, SR doesn't stand a chance.
-A base 360 hitpoints. Pretty good for a pure wizard.

Disadvantages

-No conjuration spells. It's always nice to have black blade of disaster up your sleeve, he has to depend on others for defence.
-Low AC. He can cast damage reduction spells and elemental shield and death armor (Mestil's Acid Sheath is a conjuration spell), but he won't last long if a fighter closes with him. Then again, with his spell arsenal, a fighter shouldn't live long enough to close with him.
-Low saving throws.
-Can't really do anything but cast spells.

Name Arcane Trebuchet

Race Dwarf

Alignment Any

Base Attributes
STR 8
DEX 12
CON 18
INT 18
WIS 8
CHA 6

Leveling Guide
Levels 1-40 Evoker

Final Level Distribution
Evoker 40

Attribute Bonuses
All 10 go to INT

Feats
Level 1: Toughness
Level 3: Spell Focus (Enchantment)
Level 5: Spell Focus (Evocation)
Level 6: Empower Spell
Level 9: Silent Spell
Level 10: Greater Spell Focus (Evocation)
Level 12: Greater Spell Focus (Enchantment)
Level 15: Spell Penetration, Maximize Spell
Level 18: Greater Spell Penetration
Level 20: Extend Spell
Level 21: Epic Spell Focus (Evocation)
Level 23: Epic Spell Focus (Enchantment)
Level 24: Epic Spell Penetration
Level 26: Great Intelligence I
Level 27: Great Intelligence II
Level 29: Great Intelligence III
Level 30: Great Intelligence IV
Level 32: Great Intelligence V
Level 33: Great Intelligence VI
Level 35: Great Intelligence VII
Level 36: Great Intelligence VIII
Level 38: Great Intelligence IX
Level 39: Great Intelligence X

Final Attributes
STR 8
DEX 12
CON 18
INT 38
WIS 8
CHA 6

AB
(no buffs, normal dagger)
19/14 1D4-1 (19-20 x2)

AC
15 (normal robes, no buffs)

Hit points 360 (Maximum every level)

Saving Throws (Vs. Spells)
Fortitude 20 (30)
Reflexes 17 (27)
Will 21 (31)

Skill points 381
Concentration 43
Craft Trap 43
Discipline 21
Heal 1
Open Lock 21
Set Trap 21
Spellcraft 43
Taunt 21
Tumble 20

[M.C. Menestrelle]

If you're trying to build a Tank Caster ... then feel free to dig through the Epic builds thread on Bioware.

nwn.bioware.com/guilds_registry/viewtopic.html?forum=13423&topic=117384&gid=8061

[Vurag]

Vurag,

Unless you are heart set on making a wizard if you want the best kind of mage i would go with sorc. You get more spells per rest and u dont really need all those extra spells a wizard gives you, you rarly use more then a couple in each level. ALso you should go 39 sorc, 1 pal since the pal will give u higher saves and u can get more, better equipment.

[Lord FlashHeart]

throw in a bard for sorc38/pally1/bard1 and you get UMD and tumble (+8AC and even more gear ) - need to change alignments from lawful good to neutral after taking pally though.

[Lord FlashHeart]

or sorc 36/rogue3/pally1

that gets you all of the above + uncanny dodge for those pesky flat footed moments

[Badger]

Thanks for the advice Lord.
I was thinking of trying the Exalted Sorceress build off of the Bioware website. How can I make him a dwarf instead of a human without destroying the build?

Badgeraxe