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Post by kratlin on Jun 23, 2020 0:08:55 GMT
Here are some details of my old laptop that I am trying to use:
Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2840 @ 2.16GHz Installed RAM: 4.00 (3.88 GB usable) System Type: 64-bit operating system, x64 based processor Windows 10 Model: Acer Aspire ES1-512 BIOS: Insyde Corp. V1.10, 15/12/14 Graphics Card: Intel(r) HD Graphics - I believe this an integrated graphics card Graphics Memory: 1792 Dedicated video memory: 64MB
I think that date in the BIOS would suggest the laptop is 2014?
Re-installed and tested the basic game - it has same issue of very slow screen loading and transitions (5-10 mins/area).....thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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Post by magecat on Jun 23, 2020 2:21:13 GMT
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Post by chainlink on Jun 23, 2020 7:23:07 GMT
Here are some details of my old laptop that I am trying to use: Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2840 @ 2.16GHz Installed RAM: 4.00 (3.88 GB usable) System Type: 64-bit operating system, x64 based processor Windows 10 Model: Acer Aspire ES1-512 BIOS: Insyde Corp. V1.10, 15/12/14 Graphics Card: Intel(r) HD Graphics - I believe this an integrated graphics card Graphics Memory: 1792 Dedicated video memory: 64MB I think that date in the BIOS would suggest the laptop is 2014? Re-installed and tested the basic game - it has same issue of very slow screen loading and transitions (5-10 mins/area).....thanks in advance for any suggestions. OK that looks OK if a bit basic (2GB of RAM would have been an issue), have you successfully run other games on the machine or was NWN-HG your first try? Also does it let you play the single player game without issues? Answers to these questions may help to indicate where your problems are.
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Post by kratlin on Jun 23, 2020 9:06:54 GMT
Thanks Magecat I will look through those posts.
Yes the machine used to run many games reasonably well - I logged on to steam with it to see if it would run NWN EE and it did this fine. So it looks like it is just an issue with the old nwn. It has the same problem with the vanilla single player game when I ran that. I have tried the following fixes:
Compatibility mode Windowed mode Turning all graphics settings down to minimum Changing the number of cores to 4 to 2 (I think my laptop is dual core) I read this was unlikely to be the issue.
I suppose it is possible that the disk is somehow corrupted. It does not look damaged but it has been hanging around in a box for the last 6 years or so.
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Post by chainlink on Jun 23, 2020 9:38:08 GMT
Thanks Magecat I will look through those posts. Yes the machine used to run many games reasonably well - I logged on to steam with it to see if it would run NWN EE and it did this fine. So it looks like it is just an issue with the old nwn. It has the same problem with the vanilla single player game when I ran that. I have tried the following fixes: Compatibility mode Windowed mode Turning all graphics settings down to minimum Changing the number of cores to 4 to 2 (I think my laptop is dual core) I read this was unlikely to be the issue. I suppose it is possible that the disk is somehow corrupted. It does not look damaged but it has been hanging around in a box for the last 6 years or so. OK that's useful information, so its not HG and purely NWN 1.69, I'm pretty sure compatibility mode is not a solution (not one I'd want to use myself) so I'll have a dig and see what other settings may help when I get a chance.
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Post by tomaan on Jun 23, 2020 15:00:39 GMT
I will reinstall - as I understand it you need to download 1.69 critical build first - then CEPv 2.3 (not the latest one) then the HG specific hak. Unzip it all and place them in the NWN folder. There was something I read that said that arf2 did not automatically do this atm. I stopped playing because I kept crashing - on a lark, I decided to try it again and it all seems to work now. I have a much better rig now, but the others should have had no problem running the game....no idea at all what changed. That said, when I came back this time, I followed the manual steps on the wiki page: wiki.hgweb.org/wiki/Installation_GuideI did not use ARF2. Compatibility is set to Windows XP Service Pack 3 and run as administrator on all executables. I'm on Windows 10 (Home, 64-bit) AMD-4300 3.8Ghz 16 GB RAM Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650 (4 GB) (this system is strong enough to run games like Fortnight on medium settings)
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Post by kingcamaro on Jun 23, 2020 23:38:17 GMT
I had issues with NWN:EE from steam similar to you, constant crashes, areas not loading in the campaign and such. Even with 5 hrs of playtime on steam, i was able to get a full refund because i explained the many steps i went through with no success. My machine is more than capable Windows 10 Intel 5820k 32gb ddr4 ram Rtx 2080
Id suggest to get it from gog rather than steam
Heck when i first started playing NWN the only things i remember was i had winxp 1.5gb ram and a geforce2 mx lol.
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Post by kratlin on Jun 24, 2020 8:40:12 GMT
On digging around further I found a guy on the nwn forums who had exactly the same issues as me. He resolved this by downloading the latest intel driver from their website. I had a look but it comes with a warning that it may affect other applications, as I currently have an integrated graphics card, which worried me a bit.
This is not something I have ever attempted and it's a bit over my knowledge level but I may just give it a go. It's an old laptop so not the end of the world if I have to reset it. I think, if it works, I would end up with 2 drivers and can possibly run nwn through the new one.
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Post by chainlink on Jun 24, 2020 10:50:14 GMT
You won't end up with two the new will overwrite the old, however just create a restore point before you attempt the install and you can roll back. If the driver is not compatible it is unlikely to let you install it anyway and will error out before completion. If you don't care about existing data on the machine its not a bad idea to do a flat Windows 10 reinstall from scratch as this will leave it in the best state to remove any possibly conflicting software from the equation.
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Post by kratlin on Jun 25, 2020 8:19:35 GMT
No beanz sadly - as you say it would not replace the integrated graphics - I am guessing the guy online must have had a dedicated graphics card he could replace.
After further research it appears that although there is no reason it should not run there is just an ongoing issue with some intel integrated graphics cards and the original nwn which is possibly caused by an old Microsoft update.
I am due to get a new laptop soon so maybe will give it a try then. It was fun to come back and say hi though and so pleasing to see the server up and running and doing well. The dedication of the dev team and players here is admirable, credit to you all. Happy gaming.
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Post by chainlink on Jun 25, 2020 10:24:11 GMT
I wouldn't give up quite yet, bearing in mind some of the horrifically old machines I've run NWN on, have a look in the BIOS and see if you can allocate some more memory to the integrated graphics as they are quite often (for historic reasons where system RAM was significantly less) set to the minimum that can be applied. I suspect that may be where your issue is (at least partially if not wholly) as the more memory you can allocate to this the easier the game will run and the faster areas will load.
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