LL effects on caster level?

[doomsdaybringer]

i got an e-mail about new change on LL now affect caster lvl ...........but there isnt any inform about that in the BB. can some one clarify?

[FunkySwerve]

All the changes are listed in the books ingame. They will be listed on the boards here after an initial round of edits and fixes, to save me hassle. Here's the current lists of changes, broken into posts for legth reasons.


Funky

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This book lists the custom changes made to bard spells in this module. The spells are listed by level. Unless otherwise noted, changes effect monsters as well as PCs.

6th Level Spells:
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Energy Buffer:
at casterlevel 20 the damage absorbtion limit increases from 60 to 25pts of damage per casterlevel
at casterlevel 40 the damage absorbtion limit increases to 25pts of damage per pre-legendary casterlevel and 100pts of damage per every legendary casterlevel
the resistance increases from 40/- to 40 + 1/legendary casterlevel, capped at 60/- at casterlevel 60

Ice Storm:
at casterlevel 20, the phys damage increases from 3d6 to (d6/3 casterlevels), to a maximum of 20d6 cold + 20d6 physical at casterlevel 60

5th Level Spells:
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Ethereal Visage:
casters clad in armor heavier than clothing or wearing a shield will cast the regular version of the spell; this spell will end if armor heavier than clothing or a shield is equipped after casting; duration multiplies by 10 at casterlevel 20;
clvl 15 - 30%conceal - 20/+4soak
20 - 40% - 20/+5soak - immune 3rd
25 - 50% - 20/+6
30 - 60% - 20/+7 - immune 4rth
35 - 70% - 20/+8
40 - 80% - 20/+9 - immune 5th
42 - 81% - 21/+9
44 - 82% - 22/+9
45 - 82% - 22/+10
46 - 83% - 23/+10
48 - 84% - 24/+10
50 - 85% - 25/+11 - immune 6th
52 - 86% - 26/+11
54 - 87% - 27/+11
55 - 87% - 27/+12
56 - 88% - 28/+12
58 - 89% - 29/+12
60 - 90% - 30/+13

Healing Circle:
at casterlevel 20 and up healing was increased to 1d8 + (casterlevel x (casterlevel/10)), to a maximum of 1d8 + 160 points at casterlevel 40
at casterlevel 40 and up this is increased to 1d8 + (casterlevel x (casterlevel/10)) x 2, to a maximum of 1d8 + 720 points at casterlevel 60

4th Level Spells:
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Cure Critical Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every point of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 4d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +20, causes same amount of damage to undead

Improved Invisibility: (PCs only)
reduced conceal to 25%, increases to 30% at casterlevel 41 and to 35% at casterlevel 51

War Cry:
bonus scaled to +6, Duration doubled to 2 rounds per casterlevel;
clvl25 +3 to attack and damage
clvl30 +4
clvl35 +5
clvl40 +6
clvl45 +7
clvl50 +8
clvl55 +9
clvl60 +10
at casterlevel 41 duration doubles again to 4 rounds per casterlevel

3rd Level Spells:
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Bestow Curse:
penalties scale up to -12
clvl20 = -4
25 = -6
30 = -8
35 = -10
40 = -12
subtracts 1 from target's attack bonus for every 4 legendary casterlevels, capped at -5 at casterlevel 60

Cure Serious Wounds:
cures 3d8 hp per every 4 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 3d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +15, causes same amount of damage to undead

Find Traps:
only disarms traps of DC 30 or below; if the DC is over 30, the spell will reveal the traps to everyone in the caster's party

Greater Magic Weapon:
raised bonus scale cap to max of +10, at 30; this spell can't be cast on players more than 6 levels below the caster's level, and disappears when the weapon is transferred; it still works normally on summons; the bonus and max bonus increase by 1 for each focus (regular, greater, epic, legendary) in enchantment, to a maximum of +14

Gust of Wind:
DC increases by 5 at casterlevel 20

Haste:
duration increased from 1 round per casterlevel to one turn per casterlevel

Keen Edge:
affects bludgeoning and piercing weapons if the caster has Greater Spell Focus Transmutation

2nd Level Spells:
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Bull's Strength:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to strength
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to strength, capped at 12

Cat's Grace:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to dexterity
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to dexterity, capped at 12

Cure Moderate Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every 2 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 2d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +10, causes same amount of damage to undead

Eagle's Splendor:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to charisma
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to charisma, capped at 12

Fox's Cunning:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to intelligence
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to intelligence, capped at 12

Owl's Wisdom:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to wisdom
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to wisdom, capped at 12

1st Level Spells:
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Balagorn's Iron Horn:
at casterlevel 21 and up, str check is against str = to casterlevel instead of str 20, and the knockdown duration is doubled to 2 rounds, at casterlevel 41 and up the knockdown duration increases to 4 rounds

Cure Light Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every 4 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 1d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +5, causes same amount of damage to undead

Mage Armor:
at casterlevel 21 and up the ac bonuses are doubled to +2 of each type
at casterlevel 41 and up the ac bonuses are increased to +3 of each type

Cantrips:
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Cure Minor Wounds:
cures 1 hp per point of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 4 points, causes same amount of damage to undead

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This book lists the custom changes made to sorceror and wizard spells in this module. The spells are listed by level. Unless otherwise noted, changes effect monsters as well as PCs.


Epic Spells:
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Greater Ruin:
damage doubled to 70d6

Hellball:
damage doubled to 20d6 of each type

9th Level Spells:
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Black Blade of Disaster:
does not require concentration

Energy Drain:
drains 3d4 at casterlevel 30, 4d4 at casterlevel 40, 5d4 at casterlevel 50, and 6d4 at casterlevel 60

Greater Spell Mantle: (PCs only)
increase spells absorbed from 1d12 +10- to 1d12 +20 - scaled
clvl 20 - 12 bonus
25 - 14
30 - 16
35 - 18
40 - 20
absorbs an additional spell level for every legendary casterlevel, for a maximum of 1d12 + 40 spell levels absorbed at casterlevel 60

Meteor Swarm:
changed to divine damage if caster is casterlevel 25 or over; damage at casterlevels 25 and up is 1d10 per casterlevel

Power Word Kill:
cast at a single target: at casterlevel 21 and above, the caster may affect 30 extra hp for each casterlevel above 20th, up to a maximum of 1300 hp at casterlevel 60
cast as an area of effect: the caster may affect up to twice the total hp of creatures (2600 at casterlevel 60), but each creature affected must have no more than half of the casters single target max hp limit (650hp at casterlevel 60)

Summon Creature 9:
this now summons new, more powerful elementals, at the following casterlevels:
clvl35 - Radiance
30 - Vacuum
25 - Ooze
20 - Magma

Wierd:
increased the DC of both saves by 5

8th Level Spells:
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Blackstaff:
at casterlevel 21 and up, the staff bonus = casterlevel/3, capped at +20 at casterlevel 60

Greater Sanctuary:
has a timer added to prevent exploits, set to 2 1/2 minutes between casts

Horrid Wilting:
damage cap raised from 25d8 to 30d8, plus (3/4*d8) for every legendary casterlevel

Incindiary Cloud:
damage per round increased to d6(casterlevel/4)

Premonition:
casters clad in armor heavier than clothing or wearing a shield will cast the regular version of the spell; this spell will end if armor heavier than clothing or a shield is equipped after casting; damage absorbtion limit increased to 50*casterlevel;
clvl 20 - soak 30/+6
24 - soak 30/+7
28 - soak 30/+8
32 - soak 30/+9
36 - soak 30/+10
40 - soak 30/+11
41 - soak 31/+11
42 - soak 32/+11
43 - soak 33/+11
44 - soak 34/+11
45 - soak 35/+12
46 - soak 36/+12
47 - soak 37/+12
48 - soak 38/+12
49 - soak 39/+12
50 - soak 40/+13
51 - soak 41/+13
52 - soak 42/+13
53 - soak 43/+13
54 - soak 44/+13
55 - soak 45/+14
56 - soak 46/+14
57 - soak 47/+14
58 - soak 48/+14
59 - soak 49/+14
60 - soak 50/+15

Summon Creature 8:
this now summons new, more powerful elementals, at the following caster levels:
clvl35 - Lightning
30 - Steam
25 - Ice
20 - Mineral

Sunburst:
now does 15d6 against non-undead rather than 6d6; the damage cap vs undead was raised to 30d6; does an additional 3/4d6 per legendary casterlevel to both undead and non-undead

7th Level Spells:
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Delayed Blast Fireball:
uncapped to 1d6 per casterlevel to a max of 60d6 at casterlevel 60

Finger of Death:
changed successful save damage to d6(3) + casterlevel*3

Great Thunderclap:
added sonic damage 1d6/casterlevel to a max of 60d6 at casterlevel 60

Power Word Stun:
altered the ranges, and added a new category capped at 1000:
hp0->250 = 4d4rnds
hp251->500 = 3d4rnds
hp501->750 = 2d4rnds
hp751->1000 = 1d4rnds
hp>1000 = no effect
at casterlevel 41 and up these ranges increase by 25hp per legendary casterlevel, so that at casterlevel 60, they are:
hp0->750 = 4d4rnds
hp751->1000 = 3d4rnds
hp1001->1250 = 2d4rnds
hp1251->1500 = 1d4rnds
hp>1500 = no effect

Prisimatic Spray:
changed 3 elemental beams to exotic damage types, scaled damage:
fire 20 ray -> d12(casterlevel/5) magic
acid 40 ray -> d12(casterlevel/4) divine
elec 80 ray -> d12(casterlevel/3) positive

Spell Mantle: (PCs only)
increase spells absorbed from 1d8 +8 to 1d8 +16 - scaled
clvl 25 - 10 bonus
30 - 12
35 - 14
40 - 16
absorbs an additional 4/5ths of a spell level for every legendary casterlevel, for a maximum of 1d8 + 32 spell levels absorbed at casterlevel 60

Summon Creature 7:
this now summons new, more powerful elementals, at the following casterlevels:
clvl35 - Ash
30 - Dust
25 - Smoke
20 - Salt

6th Level Spells:
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Acid Fog:
increased damage to 2d6(casterlevel/8) on entry, and 1d6(casterlevel/8) while remaining within the cloud

Chain Lightning:
damage cap removed, maxes at 60d6 at casterlevel 60

Circle of Death:
raised the max HD affected from 10 to 3 per 4 casterlevels

Ethereal Visage:
casters clad in armor heavier than clothing or wearing a shield will cast the regular version of the spell; this spell will end if armor heavier than clothing or a shield is equipped after casting; duration multiplies by 10 at casterlevel 20
clvl15 - 30%conceal - 20/+4soak
20 - 40% - 20/+5soak - immune 3rd
25 - 50% - 20/+6
30 - 60% - 20/+7 - immune 4rth
35 - 70% - 20/+8
40 - 80% - 20/+9 - immune 5th
42 - 81% - 21/+9
44 - 82% - 22/+9
45 - 82% - 22/+10
46 - 83% - 23/+10
48 - 84% - 24/+10
50 - 85% - 25/+11 - immune 6th
52 - 86% - 26/+11
54 - 87% - 27/+11
55 - 87% - 27/+12
56 - 88% - 28/+12
58 - 89% - 29/+12
60 - 90% - 30/+13

Flesh to Stone:
add 5 to dc at casterlevel 30

Globe of Invulnerability:
at casterlevel 30, the protection extends to 5th level spells,
at casterlevel 40 it extends to 6th level spells,
and at casterlevel 50 it extends to 7th level spells


Greater Stoneskin:
casters clad in armor heavier than clothing or wearing a shield will cast the regular version of the spell; this spell will end if armor heavier than clothing or a shield is equipped after casting; absorbs up to 20/level before ending, for 800dmg total at casterlevel 40 (PCs only)
clvl20 - soak 20/+6
24 - soak 20/+7
28 - soak 20/+8
32 - soak 20/+9
36 - soak 20/+10
40 - soak 20/+11
41 - soak 21/+11
42 - soak 22/+11
43 - soak 23/+11
44 - soak 24/+11
45 - soak 25/+12
46 - soak 26/+12
47 - soak 27/+12
48 - soak 28/+12
49 - soak 29/+12
50 - soak 30/+13
51 - soak 31/+13
52 - soak 32/+13
53 - soak 33/+13
54 - soak 34/+13
55 - soak 35/+14
56 - soak 36/+14
57 - soak 37/+14
58 - soak 38/+14
59 - soak 39/+14
60 - soak 40/+15
during casterlevels 41 and up the soak limit increases by 40 rather than 20, for a total limit of (20*40 + 40*20) = 1600 dmg total at casterlevel 60

Isaac's Greater Missile Storm:
adds one extra missile for every 2 casterlevels above 40, for a max of 30 missiles at casterlevel 60

Tenser's Transformation:
spell was redone, has completely different effects:
no polymorph
adds 1d6 temporary hp per casterlevel, plus 12 additional hitpoints for each of those casterlevels above 40, for a maximum of 60d6+240 at casterlevel 60
gives the caster an ab bonus of 1/2 casterlevels, capped at 40 at casterlevel 40
gives the caster the same number of base attacks per round as a pure fighter of their level, and extra attacks at casterlevels 45 and 55
gives the caster bonuses to STR, DEX, and CON equal to +1 per 4 casterlevels, capped at +12 at casterlevel 48
for every 2 casterlevels above casterlevel 20, gives the caster a +1 bonus to natural AC, capped at +20 at casterlevel 60


Undeath to Death:
uncapped to 60d4 HD at casterlevel 60

5th Level Spells:
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Ball Lightning:
cap moved up to 30d6 at casterlevel 30, with up to 30 missiles, that increases by 1d6 and 1 missile every 4 legendary casterlevels, for a maximum of 35d6 and 35 missiles at casterlevel 60

Cloudkill:
increased damage to 1d6(casterlevel/8)

Cone of Cold:
cap moved up to 30d6 at casterlevel 30, plus (3/4*d6) for every legendary casterlevel

Energy Buffer:
at casterlevel 20 the damage absorbtion limit increases from 60 to 25pts of damage per casterlevel
at casterlevel 40 the damage absorbtion limit increases to 25pts of damage per pre-legendary casterlevel and 100pts of damage per every legendary casterlevel
the resistance increases from 40/- to 40 + 1/legendary casterlevel, capped at 60/- at casterlevel 60

Firebrand:
cap moved up to 30d6 at casterlevel 30, with up to 30 missiles, that increases by 1d6 and 1 missile every 4 legendary casterlevel, for a maximum of 35d6 and 35 missiles at casterlevel 60

Lesser Spell Mantle: (PCs only)
1d4 +6 increased to 1d4 +12 scaled
clvl15 - 7
20 - 8
25 - 9
30 - 10
35 - 11
40 - 12
absorbs an additional 3/5ths of a spell level for every legendary casterlevel, for a maximum of 1d4 + 24 spell levels absorbed at casterlevel 60

Mestil's Acid Sheath:
damage capped at casterlevel 20 for a max of 40+1d6, increases by 1 point of damage for every casterlevel above 40, to a maximum of 60+1d6 at casterlevel 60

4th Level Spells:
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Bestow Curse:
penalties scale up to -12
clvl20 = -4
25 = -6
30 = -8
35 = -10
40 = -12
subtracts 1 from target's attack bonus for every 4 legendary casterlevels, capped at -5 at casterlevel 60

Elemental Shield
scales up to 1d6+60 points of damage at casterlevel 60

Enervation:
drains 2d4 at casterlevel 21 and up, and 3d4 at casterlevel 41 and up

Ice Storm:
at casterlevel 20, the phys damage increases from 3d6 to (d6/3 casterlevels), to a maximum of 20d6 cold + 20d6 physical at casterlevel 60

Improved Invisibility: (PCs only)
reduced conceal to 25%, increases to 30% at casterlevel 41 and to 35% at casterlevel 51

Isaac's Lesser Missile Storm
at casterlevel 41 and up damage increases to 2d6 per missile

Phantasmal Killer:
increased the DC of both saves by 5

Stoneskin: (PCs only)
at casterlevel 20, the amount absorbable increases from 100 to (15/casterlevel), to a limit of 900 at casterlevel 60
gives the following damage reductions:
clvl20 - soak 10/+6
24 - soak 10/+7
28 - soak 10/+8
32 - soak 10/+9
36 - soak 10/+10
40 - soak 10/+11
42 - soak 11/+11
44 - soak 12/+11
45 - soak 12/+12
46 - soak 13/+12
48 - soak 14/+12
50 - soak 15/+13
52 - soak 16/+13
54 - soak 17/+13
55 - soak 17/+14
56 - soak 18/+14
58 - soak 19/+14
60 - soak 20/+15

Wall of Fire:
at casterlevel 20 and up, this spell creates a wall of stone instead of a wall of fire, lasting one round for every two casterlevels

3rd Level Spells:
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Find Traps:
only disarms traps of DC 30 or below; if the DC is over 30, the spell will reveal the traps to everyone in the caster's party

Fireball:
damage above casterlevel 20 changed to 1d6/every 2 casterlevels

Greater Magic Weapon:
raised bonus scale cap to max of +10, at 30; this spell can't be cast on players more than 6 levels below the caster's level, and disappears when the weapon is transferred; it still works normally on summons; the bonus and max bonus increase by 1 for each focus (regular, greater, epic, legendary) in enchantment, to a maximum of +14

Gust of Wind:
DC increases by 5 at casterlevel 20

Haste:
duration increased from 1 round per casterlevel to one turn per casterlevel

Keen Edge:
affects bludgeoning and piercing weapons if the caster has Greater Spell Focus Transmutation

Lightning Bolt:
damage above casterlevel 20 changed to 1d6/every 2 casterlevels, to a max of 30d6 at casterlevel 60

Mestil's Acid Breath:
damage above casterlevel 20 changed to 1d6/every 2 casterlevels, to a maximum of 30d6 at casterlevel 60

Negative Enegy Burst - above casterlevel 20, does 1d8 + (2 per casterlevel)

Protection from Elements:
progression changed to absorb 10 points of damage per casterlevel, that doubles to 20 points of damage per casterlevel at casterlevel 41, for a max of 1200 at casterlevel 60

Scintillating Sphere:
damage above casterlevel 20 changed to 1d6/every 2 casterlevels, to a maximum of 30d6 at casterlevel 60

Vampiric Touch:
damage scaled to 1d6/every 2 casterlevels, with a max of 30d6 at casterlevel 60

2nd Level Spells:
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Balagorn's Iron Horn:
at casterlevel 21 and up, str check is against str = to casterlevel instead of str 20, and the knockdown duration is doubled to 2 rounds, at casterlevel 41 and up the knockdown duration increases to 4 rounds

Bull's Strength:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to strength
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to strength, capped at 12

Cat's Grace:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to dexterity
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to dexterity, capped at 12

Combust:
at casterlevel 20 and up, the initial burst does 2d6 + casterlevel damage, at casterlevel 40 and up that increases to 2d6 + (casterlevel x 2), at casterlevel 40 and up the damage from each successive round increases from 1d6 + 10 to 1d6 + (casterlevel/2)

Death Armor:
at casterlevel 41 and up the damage doubles to 10 + d4, and the duration changes from rounds per casterlevel to turns per casterlevel

Eagle's Splendor:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to charisma
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to charisma, capped at 12

Endurance:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to constitution
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to constitution, capped at 12

Flame Weapon:
damage scaled to 1 point of fire damage per 2 casterlevels +1d4, up to 20 +1d4 at casterlevel 40; this spell can't be cast on players more than 6 levels below the caster's level, and disappears when the weapon is transferred; it still works normally on summons

Fox's Cunning:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to intelligence
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to intelligence, capped at 12

Ghoul Touch:
duration doubles at casterlevel 21 to 2d6 +4, triples at casterlevel 41 to 3d6 + 6

Melf's Acid Arrow:
at casterlevel 21 and up, the initial damage increases to 9d6 and the damage each following round increases to 4d6;
at casterlevel 41 and up, the initial damage increases to 20d6 and the damage each following round increases to 10d6

1st Level Spells:
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Burning Hands:
damage progression resumes at casterlevel 21, doing 11d4 + 1d4 for every two casterlevels after 21

Horizikaul's Boom:
at casterlevel 20 and up, damage is increased to 1d4 per 2 casterlevels, up to 20d4 at casterlevel 40, at levels 41 and up the damage increases to 1d4 per casterlevel to a maximum of 60d4 at casterlevel 60

Ice Dagger:
at casterlevel 20 and up, damage is 5d4 + (1d4/2 casterlevels), up to 25d4 at casterlevel 40, at levels 41 and up the damage increases to 5d4 + 1d4/casterlevel, to a maximum of 65d4 at casterlevel 60

Mage Armor:
at casterlevel 21 and up the ac bonuses are doubled to +2 of each type
at casterlevel 41 and up the ac bonuses are increased to +3 of each type

Magic Missile:
at casterlevel 41 and up the damage increases to 2d4 + 2 per missile and the magic damage ignores magical resistance

Negative Energy Ray:
damage progression resumes at casterlevel 21, doing 11d6 + 1d6 for every two casterlevels after 21

Ray of Enfeeblement:
now does constitution damage at casterlevels above 21, in addition to strength damage
clvl21 = 1d6 +1 con dmg
24 = 1d6 +2
26 = 1d6 +3
28 = 1d6 + 4
30 = 1d6 + 5 cap
also does dex damage at casterlevels above 41, in addition to str and con damage
clvl41 = 1d6 +1 dex dmg
44 = 1d6 +2
46 = 1d6 +3
48 = 1d6 + 4
50 = 1d6 + 5 cap

Shield:
at casterlevel 21 and up provides immunity to Isaac's Lesser Missile Storm
at casterlevel 41 and up provides immunity to Isaac's Greater Missile Storm
deflection bonus increases by +1 for every 3 casterlevels above 12, to a maximum of +16 at casterlevel 48

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This book lists the custom changes made to cleric spells in this module. The spells are listed by level. Unless otherwise noted, changes effect monsters as well as PCs.

Epic Spells:
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Greater Ruin:
damage doubled to 70d6

Hellball:
damage doubled to 20d6 of each type

9th Level Spells:
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Energy Drain:
drains 3d4 at casterlevel 30, 4d4 at casterlevel 40, 5d4 at casterlevel 50, and 6d4 at casterlevel 60

Implosion:
removed the +3 DC bonus since the spell no longer respects death immunity, DC increases by 1 at casterlevel 50 and by another 1 at casterlevel 60

Storm of Vengeance:
at casterlevel 30 and up, the storm does 3d6 points of fire per round, in addition to the acid and electric damage

Summon Creature 9:
this now summons new, more powerful elementals, at the following casterlevels:
clvl35 - Radiance
30 - Vacuum
25 - Ooze
20 - Magma

Undeath's Eternal Foe:
added immunity to blindness/deafness, and changed AC bonus to +1 per 5 casterlevels to a max of +12 at casterlevel 60, duration extended to 2 rounds per casterlevel, duration doubles to 4 rounds per casterlevel at casterlevel 41

8th Level Spells:
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Earthquake:
uncapped damage to 25d6 at casterlevel 25; save changed to fortitude instead of reflex; at casterlevel 25 and up, the damage increases to d8 per casterlevel and the damage type switches from bludgeoning to positive, capped at 60d8

Firestorm:
uncapped damage on both types, for 30d6 fire and divine at casterlevel 60

Summon Creature 8:
this now summons new, more powerful elementals, at the following casterlevels:
clvl35 - Lightning
30 - Steam
25 - Ice
20 - Mineral

Sunbeam:
uncapped to 15d6 vs non-undead, after casterlevel 41 does an additional d6/legendary casterlevel vs undead and d6/2 legendary casterlevels vs non-undead

7th Level Spells:
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Destruction:
at casterlevel 20 and up, the damage from a failed save is d6*casterlevel

Regenerate:
at casterlevel 20, the durations becomes 1 turn per casterlevel instead of 1 round per casterlevel, scaled up from 6 to +12 at casterlevel 40:
clvl20 - 7
24 - 8
28 - 9
32 - 10
36 - 11
40 - 12
regeneration per round increases by +1 for each legendary casterlevel, maxing out at 32hp/round at casterlevel 60

Summon Creature 7:
this now summons new, more powerful elementals, at the following caster levels:
clvl35 - Ash
30 - Dust
25 - Smoke
20 - Salt

Word of Faith:
added sonic dmg, 1d6 sonic per casterlevel capped at 60d6 at casterlevel 60

6th Level Spells:
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Greater Sanctuary:
has a timer added to prevent exploits, set to 2 1/2 minutes between casts

Undeath to Death:
uncapped to 40d4 HD at casterlevel 40

5th Level Spells:
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Circle of Doom:
uncapped to casterlevel 60, increased damage to 1d8+ (2 x casterlevel)

Flamestrike:
cap moved up to 30d6 at casterlevel 30, plus (3/4*d6) for every legendary casterlevel

Healing Circle:
at casterlevel 20 and up healing was increased to 1d8 + (casterlevel x (casterlevel/10)), to a maximum of 1d8 + 160 points at casterlevel 40
at casterlevel 40 and up this is increased to 1d8 + (casterlevel x (casterlevel/10)) x 2, to a maximum of 1d8 + 720 points at casterlevel 60

Monstrous Regeneration:
regeneration increased to 1hp/round for every 5 casterlevels, +1hp/round, for a max of 13hp/round at casterlevel 60, duration increased to 1 hour per casterlevel

Slay Living:
damage increased to 3d6 + (2 x casterlevel)

4th Level Spells:
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Cure Critical Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every point of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 4d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +20, causes same amount of damage to undead

Divine Power:
increased hp bonus to 2x casterlevel, scaled up strength bonus:
clvl20 str = 20
clvl25 str = 22
clvl30 str = 24
clvl35 str = 26
clvl40+ str = 28
hp bonus for legendary casterlevel is 10 hp per casterlevel instead of 2 for a max bonus of 2*40 + 10*20 = 280 hps at casterlevel 60, adds an extra attack at casterlevel 45 and another at casterlevel 55

Freedom of Movement:
added movement bonus -
casterlevel 20 and below - 20%
at casterlevel 21 and above add 3% per casterlevel to 80% increase at casterlevel 40
add 1% for every 2 lengedary casterlevels to a max of 90% increase at casterlevel 60

Greater Magic Weapon:
raised bonus scale cap to max of +10, at 30; this spell can't be cast on players more than 6 levels below the caster's level, and disappears when the weapon is transferred; it still works normally on summons; the bonus and max bonus increase by 1 for each focus (regular, greater, epic, legendary) in enchantment, to a maximum of +14

Hammer of the Gods:
damage uncapped to 30d8 at casterlevel 60

Inflict Critical Wounds:
causes 1d8 hp per every point of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 4d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +20, cures same amount to undead

3rd Level Spells:
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Bestow Curse:
penalties scale up to -12
clvl20 = -4
25 = -6
30 = -8
35 = -10
40 = -12
subtracts 1 from target's attack bonus for every 4 legendary casterlevels, capped at -5 at casterlevel 60

Cure Serious Wounds:
cures 3d8 hp per every 4 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 3d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +15, causes same amount of damage to undead

Darkfire:
damage uncapped to 1d6 +1 per every 2 casterlevels, up to 20 +1d6 at casterlevel 40; this spell can't be cast on players more than 6 levels below the caster's level, and disappears when the weapon is transferred; it still works normally on summons

Glyph of Warding::
damage uncapped to 1d8 per 2 casterlevels to a maximum of 30d8 at casterlevel 60

Inflict Serious Wounds:
damages 3d8 hp per every 4 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 3d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +15, cures same amount to undead

Magic Vestment:
raised cap on bonus to max of +10 at 30; this spell can't be cast on players more than 6 levels below the caster's level, and disappears when the armor is transferred; it still works normally on summons; at casterlevel 41 and up, the caster may imbue greater protection into metal armors (base ac 4 or greater), for a total bonus of one per 4 casterlevels (+15 at 60) plus 1 for each focus (regular, greater, epic, legendary) in abjuration, to a maximum of +19; nonmetal armors are still capped at +10

Prayer:
bonuses increase to +2 at casterlevel 21, and to +3 at casterlevel 41

Protection from Elements:
progression changed to absorb 10 points of damage per casterlevel, that doubles to 20 points of damage per casterlevel at casterlevel 41, for a max of 1200 at casterlevel 60

Searing Light:
upcapped, making damage maximums:
60d6 vs undead
30d6 vs constructs
30d8 vs others

2nd Level Spells:
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Bull's Strength:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to strength
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to strength, capped at 12

Cure Moderate Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every 2 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 2d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +10, causes same amount of damage to undead

Eagle's Splendor:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to charisma
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to charisma, capped at 12

Endurance:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to constitution
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to constitution, capped at 12

Find Traps:
only disarms traps of DC 30 or below; if the DC is over 30, the spell will reveal the traps to everyone in the caster's party

Fox's Cunning:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to intelligence
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to intelligence, capped at 12

Inflict Moderate Wounds:
damages 1d8 hp per every 2 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 2d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +10, cures same amount to undead

Negative Energy Ray:
damage progression resumes at casterlevel 21, doing 11d6 + 1d6 for every two casterlevels after 21

1st Level Spells:
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Cure Light Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every 4 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 1d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +5, causes same amount of damage to undead

Doom:
all penalties are double at casterlevel 21 and up, and triple at casterlevel 41 and up

Entropic Shield:
at casterlevel 21 and up this spell's miss % increases to 1% per casterlevel, capped at 60% at casterlevel 60

Inflict Light Wounds:
damages 1d8 hp per every 4 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 1d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +5, cures same amount to undead

Cantrips:
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Cure Minor Wounds:
cures 1 hp per point of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 4 points, causes same amount of damage to undead

Inflict Minor Wounds:
damages 1 hp per point of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 4 points, cures same amount to undead

[FunkySwerve]

This book lists the custom changes made to druid spells in this module. The spells are listed by level. Unless otherwise noted, changes effect monsters as well as PCs.

Epic Spells:
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Greater Ruin:
damage doubled to 70d6

Hellball:
damage doubled to 20d6 of each type

9th Level Spells:
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Earthquake:
uncapped damage to 25d6 at casterlevel 25; save changed to fortitude instead of reflex; at casterlevel 25 and up, the damage increases to d8 per casterlevel and the damage type switches from bludgeoning to positive, capped at 60d8

Storm of Vengeance:
at casterlevel 30 and up, the storm does 3d6 points of fire per round, in addition to the acid and electric damage

Summon Creature 9:
this now summons new, more powerful elementals, at the following casterlevels:
clvl35 - Radiance
30 - Vacuum
25 - Ooze
20 - Magma

8th Level Spells:
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Bombardment:
removed cap to 1d8 per casterlevel up to 25d8; at casterlevel 25 and up, the damage increases to d10 per casterlevel and the damage type switches from bludgeoning to divine, for a max of 60d10

Finger of Death:
changed successful save damage to d6(3) + casterlevel*3

Premonition:
casters clad in armor heavier than clothing or wearing a shield will cast the regular version of the spell; this spell will end if armor heavier than clothing or a shield is equipped after casting; damage absorbtion limit increased to 50*casterlevel;
clvl20 - soak 30/+6
24 - soak 30/+7
28 - soak 30/+8
32 - soak 30/+9
36 - soak 30/+10
40 - soak 30/+11
41 - soak 31/+11
42 - soak 32/+11
43 - soak 33/+11
44 - soak 34/+11
45 - soak 35/+12
46 - soak 36/+12
47 - soak 37/+12
48 - soak 38/+12
49 - soak 39/+12
50 - soak 40/+13
51 - soak 41/+13
52 - soak 42/+13
53 - soak 43/+13
54 - soak 44/+13
55 - soak 45/+14
56 - soak 46/+14
57 - soak 47/+14
58 - soak 48/+14
59 - soak 49/+14
60 - soak 50/+15

Summon Creature 8:
this now summons new, more powerful elementals, at the following casterlevels:
clvl35 - Lightning
30 - Steam
25 - Ice
20 - Mineral

Sunbeam:
uncapped to 15d6 vs non-undead, after casterlevel 41 does an additional d6/legendary casterlevel vs undead and d6/2 legendary casterlevels vs non-undead

Sunburst:
now does 15d6 against non-undead rather than 6d6; the damage cap vs undead was raised to 30d6; does an additional 3/4d6 per legendary casterlevel to both undead and non-undead

7th Level Spells:
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Aura of Vitality:
scaled up to +12 stats, AC bonus added (dodge type)(PC only)
clvl20 +4 stats +2AC dodge
clvl25 +6 stats +3AC dodge
clvl30 +8 stats +4AC dodge
clvl35 +10 stats +5AC dodge
clvl40 +12 stats +6AC dodge
the dodge bonus increases by 1 for every 5 legendary casterlevels, to a max of +10 at casterlevel 60

Creeping Doom:
at casterlevel 30 and up, the spell begins at 2d6 points of damage, and increases by 2s, to 4d6, 6d6, 8d6 and so on;
damage cap raised to:
1100 at 25th casterlevel
1200 at 30th
1300 at 35th
1400 at 40th
1600 at 50th
1800 at 60th

Firestorm:
uncapped damage on both types, for 30d6 fire and 30d6 divine at casterlevel 60

Summon Creature 7:
this now summons new, more powerful elementals, at the following casterlevels:
clvl35 - Ash
30 - Dust
25 - Smoke
20 - Salt

6th Level Spells:
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Crumble:
now does d10 per casterlevel instead of d6 to a max of 60d10 at casterlevel 60

Energy Buffer:
at casterlevel 20 the damage absorbtion limit increases from 60 to 25pts of damage per casterlevel
at casterlevel 40 the damage absorbtion limit increases to 25pts of damage per pre-legendary casterlevel and 100pts of damage per every legendary casterlevel
the resistance increases from 40/- to 40 + 1/legendary casterlevel, capped at 60/- at casterlevel 60

Greater Stoneskin:
casters clad in armor heavier than clothing or wearing a shield will cast the regular version of the spell; this spell will end if armor heavier than clothing or a shield is equipped after casting; absorbs up to 20/casterlevel before ending, for 800dmg total at casterlevel 40 (PCs only)
clvl20 - soak 20/+6
24 - soak 20/+7
28 - soak 20/+8
32 - soak 20/+9
36 - soak 20/+10
40 - soak 20/+11
41 - soak 21/+11
42 - soak 22/+11
43 - soak 23/+11
44 - soak 24/+11
45 - soak 25/+12
46 - soak 26/+12
47 - soak 27/+12
48 - soak 28/+12
49 - soak 29/+12
50 - soak 30/+13
51 - soak 31/+13
52 - soak 32/+13
53 - soak 33/+13
54 - soak 34/+13
55 - soak 35/+14
56 - soak 36/+14
57 - soak 37/+14
58 - soak 38/+14
59 - soak 39/+14
60 - soak 40/+15
during casterlevels 41 and up the soak limit increases by 40 rather than 20, for a total limit of (20*40 + 40*20) = 1600 dmg total at casterlevel 60

Healing Circle:
at casterlevel 20 and up healing was increased to 1d8 + (casterlevel x (casterlevel/10)), to a maximum of 1d8 + 160 points at casterlevel 40
at casterlevel 40 and up this is increased to 1d8 + (casterlevel x (casterlevel/10)) x 2, to a maximum of 1d8 + 720 points at casterlevel 60

Regenerate:
at casterlevel 20, the durations becomes 1 turn per casterlevel instead of 1 round per casterlevel, scaled up from 6 to +12 at casterlevel 40:
clvl20 - 7
24 - 8
28 - 9
32 - 10
36 - 11
40 - 12
regeneration per round increases by +1 for each legendary casterlevel, maxing out at 32hp/round at casterlevel 60

5th Level Spells:
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Awaken:
bonus scale changed, now able to effect summons and henchmen as well as animal companions, bonuses to str, con, and wis = +1 every 4 casterlevels capped at +12 at casterlevel 48; grants an extra +1 bonus to attack for every 4 legendary casterlevels

Cure Critical Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every point of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 4d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +20, causes same amount of damage to undead

Ice Storm:
at casterlevel 20, the phys damage increases from 3d6 to (d6/3 casterlevels), to a maximum of 20d6 cold + 20d6 physical at casterlevel 60

Inferno:
at casterlevel 21 and up, damage increases to 6d6 per round
at casterlevel 41 and up, damage increases to 10d6 per round

Slay Living:
damage increased to 3d6 + (2 x casterlevel)

Wall of Fire:
at casterlevel 20 and up, this spell creates a wall of stone instead of a wall of fire, lasting one round for every two casterlevels

4th Level Spells:
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Cure Serious Wounds:
cures 3d8 hp per every 4 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 3d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +15, causes same amount of damage to undead

Mass Camouflage:
added concealment %1 per casterlevel up to casterlevel 40, +1%/2 legendary casterlevels

Flamestrike:
cap moved up to 30d6 at casterlevel 30, plus (3/4*d6) for every casterlevel above 40, for a maximum of 45d6 at casterlevel 60

Freedom of Movement:
added movement bonus -
casterlevel 20 and below - 20%
at casterlevel 21 and above add 3% per casterlevel to 80% increase at casterlevel 40
add 1% for every 2 lengedary casterlevels to a max of 90% increase at casterlevel 60

Stoneskin: (PCs only)
at casterlevel 20, the amount absorbable increases from 100 to (15/casterlevel), to a limit of 900 at casterlevel 60
gives the following damage reductions:
clvl20 - soak 10/+6
24 - soak 10/+7
28 - soak 10/+8
32 - soak 10/+9
36 - soak 10/+10
40 - soak 10/+11
42 - soak 11/+11
44 - soak 12/+11
45 - soak 12/+12
46 - soak 13/+12
48 - soak 14/+12
50 - soak 15/+13
52 - soak 16/+13
54 - soak 17/+13
55 - soak 17/+14
56 - soak 18/+14
58 - soak 19/+14
60 - soak 20/+15

3rd Level Spells:
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Call Lightning:
uncapped to 60d6 at casterlevel 60

Cure Moderate Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every 2 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 2d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +10, causes same amount of damage to undead

Dominate Animal:
spell does 1d10 points of sonic damage per 2 casterlevels to any animal, capped at 30d10 at casterlevel 30

Greater Magic Fang:
bonus now scales up to +10 at casterlevel 30, plus 1 for each focus (regular, greater, epic, legendary) in enchantment for a maximum of +14; attempts to target companions in the following order: animal companion, summon, dominated; if the caster has no animal companion, his summon will be effected, and if no summon, a creature he has dominated; at casterlevel 41 and up the bonus begins increasing again at +1/4 legendary casterlevels, up to a maximum of +19 at casterlevel 60

Healing Sting:
damage increased to 1d6 + (casterlevel x2), at casterlevel 41 and up the healing becomes temporary hitpoints instead

Infestation of Maggots:
at casterlevel 21 and up this spell does 2d4 CON damage per round

Protection from Elements:
progression changed to absorb 10 points of damage per casterlevel, that doubles to 20 points of damage per casterlevel at casterlevel 41, for a max of 1200 at casterlevel 60

Quillfire:
scaled damage up to 1d8 + (casterlevel x 2), capped at 1d8 + 120 at casterlevel 60

2nd Level Spells:
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Barkskin:
changed progression of ac bonus to 3 + (casterlevel/6), capping out at +13 ac at casterlevel 60, plus 1 for each focus (regular, greater, epic, legendary) in transmutation, to a maximum of +17

Bull's Strength:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to strength
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to strength, capped at 12

Charm Person or Animal:
no matter who is targeted, the spell grants the caster a +1 to animal empathy checks per every 3 casterlevels, to a maximum of +20 at casterlevel 60, for 2 turns + (1 turn/3 casterlevels)

One With the Land:
at casterlevel 21 and up this spell transports the caster to a safe resting spot, but only if they are in a natural outdoor area

1st Level Spells:
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Cure Light Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every 4 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 1d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +5, causes same amount of damage to undead

Cantrips:
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Cure Minor Wounds:
cures 1 hp per point of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 4 points, causes same amount of damage to undead

[FunkySwerve]

This book lists the custom changes made to ranger spells in this module. The spells are listed by level. Unless otherwise noted, changes effect monsters as well as PCs.

4th Level Spells:
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Cure Serious Wounds:
cures 3d8 hp per every 4 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 3d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +15, causes same amount of damage to undead

Freedom of Movement:
added movement bonus -
casterlevel 20 and below - 20%
at casterlevel 21 and above add 3% per casterlevel to 80% increase at casterlevel 40
add 1% for every 2 lengedary casterlevels to a max of 90% increase at casterlevel 60

Camouflage:
added concealment %1 per casterlevel up to casterlevel 40, +1% conceal/2 legendary casterlevels

3rd Level Spells:
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Bladethirst:
at casterlevel 20 the +3 bonus doubles to +6, and at casterlevel 40 it doubles again to +12

Cure Moderate Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every 2 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 2d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +10, causes same amount of damage to undead

Greater Magic Fang:
bonus now scales up to +10 at casterlevel 30, plus 1 for each focus (regular, greater, epic, legendary) in enchantment for a maximum of +14; attempts to target companions in the following order: animal companion, summon, dominated; if the caster has no animal companion, his summon will be effected, and if no summon, a creature he has dominated; at casterlevel 41 and up the bonus begins increasing again at +1/4 legendary casterlevels, up to a maximum of +19 at casterlevel 60

2nd Level Spells:
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Cat's Grace:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to dexterity
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to dexterity, capped at 12

One With the Land:
at casterlevel 21 and up this spell transports the caster to a safe resting spot, but only if they are in a natural outdoor area

1st Level Spells:
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Cure Light Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every 4 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 1d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +5, causes same amount of damage to undead

[FunkySwerve]

This book lists the custom changes made to paladin spells in this module. The spells are listed by level. Unless otherwise noted, changes effect monsters as well as PCs.

4th Level Spells:
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Cure Serious Wounds:
cures 3d8 hp per every 4 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 3d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +15, causes same amount of damage to undead

Freedom of Movement:
added movement bonus -
casterlevel 20 and below - 20%
at casterlevel 21 and above add 3% per casterlevel to 80% increase at casterlevel 40
add 1% for every 2 lengedary casterlevels to a max of 90% increase at casterlevel 60

3rd Level Spells:
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Cure Moderate Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every 2 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 2d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +10, causes same amount of damage to undead

Greater Magic Weapon:
raised bonus scale cap to max of +10, at 30; this spell can't be cast on players more than 6 levels below the caster's level, and disappears when the weapon is transferred; it still works normally on summons; the bonus and max bonus increase by 1 for each focus (regular, greater, epic, legendary) in enchantment, to a maximum of +14

Prayer:
bonuses increase to +2 at casterlevel 21, and to +3 at casterlevel 41

2nd Level Spells:
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Bull's Strength:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to strength
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to strength, capped at 12

Eagle's Splendor:
at casterlevel 20 and up this spell adds 2d4 +2 to charisma
at casterlevel 40 and up this spell adds 3d4 +3 to charisma, capped at 12

1st Level Spells:
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Cure Light Wounds:
cures 1d8 hp per every 4 points of heal skill (including item/spell bonuses) possessed by the caster, minimum of 1d8 points, plus 1 point per casterlevel up to +5, causes same amount of damage to undead

Deafening Clang:
enhancement bonus changed to +1 every 4 casterlevels capped at +15 at casterlevel 60; damage bonus increases to 6 sonic at casterlevel 20, 2d8 sonic at casterlevel 30, and 2d12 sonic at casterlevel 40, duration increases to 1 Turn per casterlevel at casterlevel 40

[doomsdaybringer]

wow..............
90% for Ethereal Visage !!!!!!!!!
sorry, but how does it affect caster lvl......vs monster's SR?

[FunkySwerve]

SR scales up at 1 point per level.

[Ralkain]

funkyswerve said:

SR scales up at 1 point per level.

If I'm reading things correctly, it seems LLs now count for caster level for overcoming SR. If so, then the races who have natural SR should be updated so that their LLs count for their SR (if this hasn't been done already).

Dave.

[FunkySwerve]

Yup, thats in the works, as well - I'll be doing that when I upgrade monk sr's, since I will be applying them in the same function - along with, potentially, RDD sr's if we go with a new set of class mods for them we're discussing in the dm forum. Haven't decided if subraces will get a full point boost that they get in pre-legendary levels or not, yet.
Funky

[Ralkain]

funkyswerve said:

Yup, thats in the works, as well...

Ok.

Haven't decided if subraces will get a full point boost that they get in pre-legendary levels or not, yet.

IMO, they should stay consistent with casters. If casters get a Penetrate point for each LL, so should racial SRs. If casters only count 1/2 LLs to Penetrate, then races should only receive 1/2 LLs in SR, etc.

Dave.

[FunkySwerve]

The diffrence with subraces was that some were too high already in my opinion, but it wasn't an issue since they stopped gaining at level 40. A blanket approach is by far the easiest, but will most likely cause balance problems.
Funky

[Ralkain]

funkyswerve said:

The diffrence with subraces was that some were too high already in my opinion, but it wasn't an issue since they stopped gaining at level 40.

I guess I'm trying to see your point here, mages stopped gaining at 40 too. If you start mages back up, you should start races back up to *keep* the balance.

As for too high, I haven't seen play issues with it as it was.

• 2 races have a flat 18 (worthless at higher levels).
  
• 1 race has 0+lvl (equal level caster always wins)
  
• 4 races have 5+lvl (equal caster wins 75%)
  
• 1 race has 10+lvl (equal caster wins 50%)
  
• 1 race has 15+lvl (equal caster wins 25%)
  

Caster has the vast edge and playing these for a long time hasn't seemed imbalancing IMO. And this isn't even counting penetration which would give casters +30% to all those values with epic (+40% with legendary).

A blanket approach is by far the easiest, but will most likely cause balance problems.

IMO, blanket is easiest and *keeps* the balance as is, even if it continues to go to the casters.

Dave.