Weapon Finesse

[cathedralmaster]

Recently, I've been working out a build for a dex monk and have run into an issue with weapon finesse - you can't take it lvl 1 but you only get lvl 2 from the Rowan Tree with a monk. I tested it out - unless you splurge on bull's str pots, a good dex monk can't even kill the rats in the cellar at any reasonable pace.

So I was wondering if:
1. The Rowan tree could be altered to give monks 3 lvls instead of 1.

Or:

2. Half-Kyton, the dex monk race, could be given the weapon finesse feat for free - say at the cost of the the improved sr feats or even the dodge and mobility feats - so at least the BUR users won't have to suffer through 2000 xp of 100% leeching.

[thedomicron]

i think that removing dodge and mobility would be a huge penalty to the subrace, extremely severe in that it can alter many of the builds for monk which i feel half-kyton was developed for (2 of the wm feats at level 1 seems like its very intentional)

have you tried using a sling or shuriken's at level 2? you can take advantage of the ab modifier from the get go, switching to kama or whatever weapon you choose at level 3

[Master Jaxx]

Not being able to get wep finesse at lvl 1 is kinda a pita but think of it this way. . . How long are you going to be lvl 2 for? Not long at all. . . who cares what kinda damage you do at lvl 2 when in a few days or even just a day you'll already be immortal and trying to get all your tags I've always just dealt with the sucky dmg at those low lvls because the end result is what matters anwayz. As for leeching for 2k xp. . .do what ya can I say. . .

Removing dodge and mobility would be a very bad idea for that subby. . . just think of it.

[khaine]

well.... I have only one immortal so I do not have much experiance, but I prefer not to powerlevel.... but of course when I start my anarch I may change my mind.. like when I said that I would only do desert a bit at a time when I wasn'tt here yet, xD.

Well, I'll see, xD.

xD.

[bort]

Sling.