New Build Idea Fighter8/Monk2/Assassin30/

[omino23]

Here is an idea I had kicking around. I submit for your approval.
I call her "Gug Gug"

STR: 16 (30)
Dex: 12 (10)
Con: 14
Wis: 12 (14)
Int: 14
Cha: 8

Race: Minotaur
(I might have messed the skills up a little but this is it more or less)
Concentration: 22
Discipline: 22
Hide: 43
Listen:12
Move Silent: 43
Spell Craft: 20 (cross class most of this late on, might be a little higher)
Spot: 12
Tumble: 40
Use Magic Devise: 43

1) Blind Fight, Luck of Heros, Lightning Reflex
2) Exotic Weapon Proficiency
3) Weapon Focus Scythe
4) Weapon Specialization Scythe
6) Toughness
9) Great Cleve
12) Improved Critical Scythe
15) Knockdown
17) Improved Knockdown
18) Iron Will
19) Expertise
21) Epic Weapon Focus Scythe
24) Epic Prowess, Epic Reflex
27) Armor Skin
28) Improved Sneak Attack I
30 ) Overwhelming Critical Scythe
32) Improved Sneak Attack II
33) Improved Sneak Attack III
36) Improved Sneak Attack IV, Improved Sneak Attack V
39) Improved Sneak Attack VI
40) Improved Sneak Attack VII

Level:
Fighter 4
Monk 1
Assassin 10
Fighter 4
Monk 1
Assassin 20

At lvl 40:
Fortitude- 25
Reflex - 29
Will - 23

Attack Progression at 40 with mundane Scythe: +40/+35/+30/+25


Should Qualify for Dev Crit? If taken in LL? I am not sure how this works. I know there is a "item" but I am not sure about how the feat works or if I can take it in LL.

I am thinking of continuing to max Str in LL. As far as feats and skills in LL: I am thinking of taking more epic saves and LL saves feats, as well as thinking about putting skill into Discipline but any suggestions in this area would be great.

Let me know what you think.

Strengths: strong, high damage with the sneaks and death attack on the scythe, can UMD, sneaky and hard to see, High AB
Weakness: would love to be a wep master rather than a fighter to extend that crit range more, saves a little low, lowish HP ~400 naked.

[chainlink]

You get the dev crit ability when you find the item/place/person if you have 30 levels of assassin pre-LL and meet the requirement of 42 Str or Dex (including item + so a minimum of 30 is required). The problem with Str assassins is that Great Str is not an assassin bonus feat (unlike Great Dex) leaving you with a load of effectively useless feats you have to take. If you're not maxing your primary stat you're going to suffer a lot in Ll when you find you can't hit much and your dev crit potential will be severely reduced buy the fact you've not maxed your Str as well.

[omino23]

Now that Str has been added as a bonus feat for assassin this build might have a chance ;D

[chainlink]

You're probably better off taking weapon focus in scimitar if you want to do lots of dev crits due to the improved critical multiplier with this weapon, even without 7 WM levels you'll still be critting on 12-20 with a keen weapon and improved critical feat.

[gruntgruntson]

How would people rate this Feat List? I am also thinking about a STR assassin, but not sure on how to build it.

1) Blind Fight, Luck of Heros, Lightning Reflex
2) Great Fortitude
3) Weapon Focus Scimitar
4) Weapon Specialization Scimitar
6) Toughness
9) Expertise
12) Improved Critical Scimitar
15) Knockdown
17) Improved Knockdown
18) Iron Will
19) Improved Expertise
21) Epic Weapon Focus Scimitar
24) Epic Prowess, Epic Reflex(GRT STR1)
27) Armor Skin
28) Epic Reflex(GRT STR2)
30) Epic Will
32) Epic Reflex(GRT STR3)
33) Epic Reflex(GRT STR4)
36) Epic Reflex(GRT STR5),Epic Reflex(GRT STR6)
39) Epic Reflex(GRT STR7)
40) Epic Reflex(GRT STR8)

Legendary Feats:
Leg Will
Leg Fort
Leg Ref
Leg Luck
Epic Reflex(GRT STR9)
Epic Reflex(GRT STR10)

I'm not sure about some of the pre-epic feats, but also nt sure what to replace them with.

[omino23]

woooo I like your feats better
makes more sense for this mod and improve saves greatly, I don't suppose it would be possible to do 3 pally/7wm/30 assassin huh... no way I can figure out how to do it.

[chainlink]

You could only do it with a subby that gives + to hide and move silently and none of the current ones have Str as a stat boost, imo Half-Kyton would be your best option at the minute as it gives free WM feats but you're still not getting a Str boost. Still hoping the powers that be will implement something like my Barbazu suggestion for a Str WM/Assassin build.
OK I was wrong have a look at One Eyed if you want to see a potential Str assassin build I think you'll just miss out on 7 WM levels (unless you go Ftr/WM/Assassin due to the free Ftr feats) but will definitely be able to take 5.

[starlandra]

kk I fooled around with it a bit using stinger and thought for a second... wm is really irrlevant and not gonna happen if you don't have wraith or a really nice bur. I made a 9 paly 1 rogue 30 assassin str build and got the following

saves
24
30
22
so with gear they would be
55
61
53
with legendary luck, will and fort
65
64
63 which is plenty good

naked ab was
42/37/32/27
using a scimmy you have a crit range of
15-20 x2.. not too bad at all.

So damage wise you are looking as good as any non wm tank. Doesn't answer your question exactually I know lol but I never got around to getting wraith...

[Acaos]

Going 8 paladin / 2 rogue instead of 9 paladin / 1 rogue would get you Evasion at no cost to AB or saves for that build.

Also, please don't discuss secrets on the forums.

Acaos

[starlandra]

er don't recall posting a secret... but ok. And don't you not get evasion from rogue until level 2?