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Post by alandrian on Apr 1, 2007 13:08:37 GMT
What reason for mage armor? Even with just dachy boots it gives you only +1 AC. Any other uses?
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Post by dodrudon on Apr 1, 2007 20:18:57 GMT
It scales up to +3 Dodge AC iirc. In Hell, every level strips away one more point of AC. With UR boots that gives +16 dodge and with Haste, you get the full +20 Dodge AC. Mage Armor can help offset the penalties from Hell, as can other spells that gives Dodge AC such as Undeath's Eternal Foe.
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Post by alandrian on Apr 1, 2007 23:37:40 GMT
Ah hell penality. Forgot about them. Thanks.
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Post by PotsNPans on Apr 17, 2007 0:44:16 GMT
Sry fot the long puase in between post i thought about it alot, This is what i think im gonna do see if you guys can offer any suggestions. I took in what you all suggested also.
Lvl. 9 [glow=red,2,300]wail bigs meteor[/glow]
Lvl.8 [glow=red,2,300]horrid prominition[/glow] either [glow=red,2,300]greater sanc[/glow] or gonna take the other [glow=red,2,300]bigs[/glow] depends if it yould do damage vs hell creature? Any exp players on this?
Lvl.7 [glow=red,2,300]fod greater thunder bigs grasp[/glow]
Lvl.6 [glow=red,2,300]chain lighting tensers ethereal visage[/glow]
Lvl.5 [glow=red,2,300]firebrand cone of cold energy buffer mestil acid sheathe[/glow]
Lvl.4 [glow=red,2,300]ice storm spell breach enervation elemental shield[/glow]
Lvl.3 [glow=red,2,300]vamp touch acid breadth gmw neg energy burst[/glow]
Lvl.2 [glow=red,2,300]combust death armor flame weapon[/glow] either [glow=red,2,300]acid arrow[/glow] or [glow=red,2,300]iron horn[/glow] waiting on your guys replies [glow=red,2,300]endurance[/glow] - maxed its nice for anyone who doesnt have plus 12 con
Lvl.1 [glow=red,2,300]horiz boom mage armor ice dagger endure elements[/glow] dont know what else?
So pls pick it apart i want a stron sorc in hells remember i have ll necro and epic enchant and epic evo. I have one feat left i was gonna take either ll evo or extend spell, would also like some advise on this from the exp hell runners. Thanks again all ;D
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Post by illandous on Apr 24, 2007 16:38:54 GMT
You will want Greater Sant because if you can't live through a situation to cast your spells will be usless when your party is down.
Greater Sant... Rez cleric... Mircale. Back in the fight.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Apr 24, 2007 18:23:27 GMT
But, as said earlier in this thread, you'd be crazy to waste a spell slot on it when a scroll suffices. Funky
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Post by miraborg on Jun 17, 2007 14:27:28 GMT
Hi all,
Im rebuilding my sorc and was wondering about what spells to take and came over this thread:
My Settings: Evo & Necro LL Spellfoci
Im not sure about some of my spells and wanted to ask some questions about them :
Is cob any good in hells ? Is Mindfog any good in hells ? Is Mindfog stacking with bardcurse / song ? Or better going for Ball Lighnting and Firebrand instead skiping one of them for Mindfog
Do the meatshields still like/need flameweapon ? Would you recommend take foxcunning ( +12 Int buff ) for our fellow rogues ? I read that about prekeened Weps. So you dont need keen anymore ? Better take Gust of the wind instead ? ( Thought Ill take Gust along as Scroll to clear clouds )
What do U think about Sunburst as lvl 8 Selection ? Instead GS or Mindblank. Im not sure about Bigby's clenched fist since I prefer to just grab with lvl 7 or 9 and use the stilled version of 7
Do U really think Stoneskin is worth skipping for lesser spell breach ? Cant I use spellbreach form scroll either ?
I was thinking of going for Wall of fire, Stoneskin, Elemental Shield and Ice Storm
Does Ghostly Visage stack with Etheral Visage ?
greetings
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Post by thedomicron on Jun 17, 2007 20:20:58 GMT
here goes: don't think cob works well enough to use (low level spell = low dc) mindfog with high enough dc might work, but i think ball lit and brands are better. flameweapon=good rogues should not require +12 int buff (should have it from unlocking-setup) gust=VERY good, though scrolls/wands might make up for it, i would take keen&fw if you have epic enchant i have gs, currently i don't see much of a use for sunburst, though i s'pose that can change. mb off of scrolls has always worked for me, and its not nearly as universally helpfull (in tight situations) as gs i've skipped stoneskin for lsb ghostly doesn't stack w/ ethereal visage
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Post by miraborg on Jun 18, 2007 16:31:39 GMT
The point with sunburst was for me that it is evocation and I have that school. It also can blind and is divine dmg. The other choice would have been the Bigby's clenched fist. But I thought with the lvl 7 & lvl 9 grabbies it should be good.
Stoneskin for lsb? Why not taking lsb from scroll aswell like mord MB or gs ?
What lvl 6 spells did you select ? Did you go for IGMS ?
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Post by thedomicron on Jun 18, 2007 17:28:18 GMT
i took flesh to stone. igm is good as well, neither is a spell i plan to use heavily
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Post by cathedralmaster on Jun 18, 2007 18:28:27 GMT
Why? Moad quest dragons, Queen Zerya, and those pesky scarabs in the desert are about the only things it's good for now that I've seen.
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Post by alandrian on Jun 18, 2007 18:50:59 GMT
Well Horrid is quite set so you can skip igms usually. Moad? Horrid!Scarabs? Horrid/MS! Zerya? Maybe for her but i would not waste the slot for her. Better chain lightning. And dont take gust. You can easly cast it of wands or scrolls. Just ask you friendly wizzy.
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Post by thedomicron on Jun 18, 2007 21:25:40 GMT
if not for the hells i'd have either chain lit or igms instead of f2s. and with lit covered by ball lightning, i might choose igms for those special occasions when they come in handy
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Post by miraborg on Jun 18, 2007 22:01:25 GMT
what do you think about swapping igms for greater stoneskin? How about IGMS and the pyramid ? I´ve never been there and dont want to miss a spell that could come handy in there. Ok so no gust How about this selection for lvl 3 : Greater magic weapon Keen edge Mestil's acid breath Protection from elements PS thedomicron: gratz for the 1000 posts
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Post by kaldair on Jun 18, 2007 23:04:20 GMT
The problem w/IGMS in the Pyramid and many other LL areas is monster kickback damage. Can you imagine you, and/or your entire party, getting 125 damage for each missle? This is what really limits IGMS effectiveness ...
Kaldair
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