A dwarven shifter

[mescalino]

I was looking trough the builds and it surprises me i didn't see this type of build. A few servers i played on this type was spit at cause it would make you to close to being immortal.

Druid/Dwarven Defender/Shifter

Enough lvls of druid to beable to take shifter (i believe 6) Enough lvls to get the undead shape 11 as you have to be epic but at lvl 18 you get to pick a feat so that would make:

Druid-6 / Shifter 12 / Dwarven defender 22

Your main shape will be the undead shape: Risen lord
Risen Lord
Str 21
Con 19
+60 hp
+13 (dodge AC)
Above that:
Damage reduction 15/+3
Damage Immunities:
Slashing 50%, Piercing 50%
Risen Lord Scythe +5
(Cleave, Whirlwind Attack
Vampiric Regeneration +2)

These imunities combined with the damage reduction DD give:
The damage reduction increases by 3 points for every four levels above 10th Combined with Epic Damage Reduction III

You focus in scythe (weapon focus/ imp crit) You have a very good tank. note: i don't know what saves will be.

I have seen several items that add % damage reduction that stacks (heard someone talk about 40%) 40+50=90% !!!
This with 9(DD)+9(EDR)=18 and this stacks (if i recall correct) with reduction from items i have seen 20 (not sure about the 25) gives a total of 38 reduction. Only thing is that the Risen has no Bludge immuun and thus this will be his weak spot. I even think it will be possible to save 8 feats and throw them all in saving boost (Luck, iron wil, lighting reflex etc. + LL versions). Another thing is you are undead and thus CAN be turned though you need a strong turner to do that.

Though i have never seen this on HG and it makes me wonder why. Did i oversee something (side note: have not been in hell yet). Do i just gave you a golden idea (which i doubt ) ?

On paper this looks like an ideal tankbuild.

Please clarify this for me

[bort]

No monk level, so AC will be low i think.
Do you have to drink harm pots in undead shape? I heard they were slower than heal packs..
Alot of the damage in the mod is elemental or exotic- so even if you can shrug off a load of physical, you will still suffer plenty of damage if your AC is low and you lack good conceal to make up for it. Not to mention on hit death effects/stoning etc.

[mescalino]

Yes you have to drink harm pots. Never used them so if you say they are slower i'll take your word for it.
You are right about exotic damage but thet can be overcome (somewhat) by rings and maybe a few damage reduction feats.
About AC that can be an issue as im not sure if the +13AC stacks or not. But you can get at least +5 bonus from CC tumble.
But yes, that may clarify the reason why i haven't seen any of this type of builds. Most druid shapes i see are The petrifying ones, Illithid and spike shooting beast (forgot name) oh and slaad's.
Maybe ill just build it for the fun of it but yes elemental and exotic damage is most defenatly his weaknes and maybe his AC though you can use tower shield and full plate

[cathedralmaster]

From just glancing at it, your ab is going to suck. Hope you have a loaded dice cause you'll only be hitting on a 20.

[bort]

cathedralmaster said:

From just glancing at it, your ab is going to suck. Hope you have a loaded dice cause you'll only be hitting on a 20.

That's a good point - I tried to make a dragon tank build a while ago, using 20 full bab levels pre-epic to try and help out the AB. AB was fairly disappointing regardless iirc.

[mescalino]

Well i knew something was wrong with it cause i never saw this type of build. But i asume then that if you have a strength of 50 changing to Risen will drop it to 21? In that case yes your ab will suck.

[Raj]

yes, str is set at 21, and con at 19

and undead shapes are vulnerable to divine so a big nono for this mod

it was an interesting build on servers with just 40 lvls and easier to hit mobs, btw you only need 10 shifters levels in order to qualify for epic shapes, just have to take the 10th lvl on a epic lvl that grants a bonus feat ( 21-24-27-...)

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