Graphics Lag ... mainly in desert

[wnxith]

Spent an hour reading all the posts here related to Lag or gfx lag and cant find anything. This thread problem is similar to the "Huge Lag Spike on Spawns" thread but that thread hasn't been responded to soooo...

I am having grahics lag. Particularly in the desert, and particularly as the Devs spawn and stay spawned. Seems the quicker they can be killed the less lag I accumulate. And accumulate is the right word as the more devs that spawn (I'm singling out the devs as they cuase the most accumulative lag for me) the more choppy the game becomes.

It almost seems like there is no input output. What I mean is that It seems that as creatures and items spawn or are drawn or which or whatever happens, there is no outlet once the creature or items is gone.

This graphic lag happens everwhere; Thids, Sissy, DB, etc. ..... but not as severe as the desert.

Currently I am using the 169.21 drivers for my vid card. Tried uninstalling/installin new drivers. Tried the 175.16, 178.24 and the newest; 190.62 drivers .. all drivers tested by going to desert and spawning a small mob of devs past 1st desert map then going to 2nd desert map and spawning a small mob with the same accumulative results of lag. Also tried massing in GS the entire 2nd map and it pretty much brought my display to an unplayable choppy crawl. A quick portal relog and all lag is gone. Which brings to mind..... also when in a party of three... severe lag and the other two party members down I decided to relog on a half spawned desert dev map. GS'd when I came back. Could run around with no lag. As soon as I rezzed a party member combat ensued and the lag started accumulating again....

Trying to give as much info as possible... I have the no-crash-fix, using modified nwmain-169-hg.exe, have 30 files in my portraits folder, 880 files in my override folder, and always use the HGE_Updaters when updating.

I am using an Nvidia GeForce 7300 GT 512 MB
Windows XP Home SP3
AMD Athlon XP 2800+
2.0 GB Memory
DirectX 9.0c
Linksys Wireless-G 2.4 GHz router - encrypted
Comodo Firewall (off usually when playing NWN)

Fully updated on system drivers (well all except Bios I believe)and fully updated windows updates.

This is on baffling problem for me and have asked people in game and most said it was my drivers... others not sure.. and I have tried and searched to find the answer with no luck.

Hoping someone else has had this problem and figured it out.

Edit: bugger... forgot to state that in my NWN settings.. either everything is set to low or none. Shadows, water, grass.. basically anything extra that renders and moves

[StrykerOfChaos]

Take out the crash fix
It was made irrelevant with 1.69

[TJ]

It was mentioned somewhere the the huge number of arrows that the devarials shot caused huge gfx lag. forget what the fix was though of if there was one.

TJ

[wnxith]

Thanks TJ!

With this new information I decided to do a search on devariel arrow lag using the HG google search here and found something.

(found in the archives)
UPDATE 1-18-2006
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-Made some adjustments to the desert areas, including an area addition, some new and changed loot, some changes to the monsters, and a few other tweaks.

The above adjustments I do not know If this is what effected the lag increase ... tho there have been so many lag fixes since then... tho searching though all archives brought nothing else related to the desert areas.

I do remember when there was absolutely no lag in the desert for me. It has to be either a MOD update, an update I did for HG, or a hak or something I added. But I am not for sure.... still searching for the answer

[EW Storm]

afaik, this arrow lag has been there a very long time.
I suspect that there are some video cards that don't experience this problem, but I really don't know.
Relogging will clear the lag, sometimes resting in the PPD will clear it also, and sometimes it will clear when a certain monster or player dies.

[wnxith]

Thank you ewstorm for this information.

I am wondering what the properties as far as lag goes is for these arrows..

I also experience lag in other places as well.. If I knew what this type of property was that is on these arrows and the other properties on other items, creatures, etc.. then I could figure out what my gfx card is missing that handles these types of "heavy gfx" and buy a card that could handle it. Only place I play is HG.

[bhao]

Sept 4, 2009 4:56:07 GMT wnxith said:

I am wondering what the properties as far as lag goes is for these arrows..

there was a lengthy discussion about it here.

[EW Storm]

I don't think you are going to fix this problem..
It could be.. that the arrows are never really cleared (disappear) like they are supposed to.. so effectively there is more information building up (somewhere) with every additional arrow.

The best solution is relogging, unless someone decides to post their system configuration that does NOT, EVER, have this issue... (assuming there is one)...

This might also happen with bullets and bolts, you might be able to test that by fighting the prismatic dragon (Glith) past the guardians... I believe this is another fight where this issue occurs...

[TJ]

I dont get noticeable gfx lag in the desert.

Mobility Radeon X1600
2GB RAM
2.33GHz Core 2 Duo

TJ

[wnxith]

Sept 4, 2009 14:14:12 GMT bhao said:

Sept 4, 2009 4:56:07 GMT wnxith said:

I am wondering what the properties as far as lag goes is for these arrows..

there was a lengthy discussion about it here.

Wow.. how did I miss that thread?!

Well just FYI I do have floaty text off as well. The only way to tell how close to death a creature is is by hitting the tab button to highlight things.

I see that only a relog will do. For now.

As far as what Funky mentioned on June 12 2009 -- Quote: The polymorph trick we use might well fix it as well. Might be time for a !remodel command, or somesuch.
Noticed that polymorphing as a shifter did nothing so a
!polymorph command wouldn't do the trick......but am wondering If it is possible to !rerender your own character, and If that would do the trick ..as lag is not only in the desert, it is everywhere for me.

And... as TJ stated : I dont get noticeable gfx lag in the desert.

Mobility Radeon X1600
2GB RAM
2.33GHz Core 2 Duo

Not everyone has a system that can cope with toning down the lag...

oh... and btw, Acaos did you ever figure anything else out? You stated on June 12th 2009 ::
I now have a different suspicion what might be causing the Desert lag; I'll look into it.

edit: wife was over-shadowing me looking at my post and stated that in the online group she chats in; which happens to be a sort of virtual world.. she caches textures.. is how she explains it. a sort of overlapping of textures... and when the graphics start to slow down there is a button she can hit that unloads that cache and everything goes back to nice and smooth. Wouldnt it be nice to have a gfx cache cleaner of sorts for this sort of problem?

[MurphysLawAgain]

Hmm - have a look at the memory leak issue, you might try changing the settings to match? It cant hurt and might help.