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Post by Torin on Jul 13, 2012 16:03:08 GMT
The point is: Its possible to get items by trade that a out off reach/impossible to get otherwise. And that is a good thing.
On the deal itself: 30PH seems way too much for me.
Edited for bad English.
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Post by kaezar on Jul 13, 2012 16:55:09 GMT
Heh. At first sight it seems excessive. But I remember my first pw, which I trade 10 burs for, and it was before randomization, and included kolyarut and half-celestial.
Still, I would take that trade. I have 4 or so pw's by now - funny how that works, 60+ nessus without winning one, then win 5 on the next 20. That would set me up for ph's.
In general, nothing against it.
Take care Kaezar
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Post by Yojimbo on Jul 13, 2012 17:36:38 GMT
I do think 30 PH is a bit much even though I have been to more Nessus than I have Demi count, which is total of 5 demi counts across all my toons, and only once seen the PW ring. I would trade upwards of 6 high level rare end game items for 1 PW but not things that are as coveted and drop as or less frequently such as a TA I would trade 1 TA for 2 PW if I had a TA to trade maybe It really boils down to the value of the PW Ring to the one who wants it and the one who holds it finding a trade of gold or items that each values as much as what they are giving up. I had a TA once when all I had was my open sub Theurge so I had little need of a TA myself as the hope of doing anything more than dragging my Theurge through Abo was a ways off. I can't recall everything I got in trade for it but I do know I got 1 CHA Arti, 1 STR Arti, 1 DEX Arti, 1 CON Arti, and more just forget the more atm. For me at that time it was a good trade if I were to make the trade today I might not even make it as I have reasonable chance of Abo tagging one of toons who could use it and may even have one already tagged to Abo.
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jul 13, 2012 18:31:16 GMT
Well it seems I'm in the minority here.
I still thinks it's excessive beyond belief and I feel the person having to go farm the PH's is being taken advantage of badly but since neither of the people involved have commented it's not my business to pull them into it by naming them so I'll leave it be
Cata
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jul 13, 2012 18:37:53 GMT
it's not your place to complain unless it's someone you really are involved with. As for this comment. I'll refrain from saying what I really think of this kind of attitude since getting banned from the forums would be somewhat counterproductive and just state that although you may be the sort of person who quote happily ignores it when they see what they believe to be someone else beingabused, taken advantage of or otherwise being treated poorly I am not. Cata Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using ProBoards
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Post by johnny on Jul 13, 2012 18:41:32 GMT
it's not your place to complain unless it's someone you really are involved with. As for this comment. I'll refrain from saying what I really think of this kind of attitude since getting banned from the forums would be somewhat counterproductive and just state that although you may be the sort of person who quote happily ignores it when they see what they believe to be someone else beingabused, taken advantage of or otherwise being treated poorly I am not. Cata Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using ProBoards This is totally the case here that everybody is thinking the same as you, oh wait! One thing is help someone being abused, another is what you doing, trying to flame someone that we dont even know who is. If you wanted to help the person involved you should just tell them, not do this here.
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jul 13, 2012 18:48:12 GMT
Yeah cause no way should we bring into the public light behaviour we think is wrong and needs to be addressed publicly....am I trying to shame some decency into the guy by making it public? Damn right. Am I flaming him? Hell I don't know who the guy wanting the portable holes is.
I believe it is bad behaviour that should be dealt with. But yeah I shouldn't do it publicly like all the other people who have posted about what they thought was bad behaviour.
Damn this place is full of flamers, bringing all those pk'ers and loot loggers, stealers to public awareness. How dare we......
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Post by kingcamaro on Jul 13, 2012 18:54:41 GMT
isnt this kind of thread what the FO is for?
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Post by Torin on Jul 13, 2012 19:08:25 GMT
We need more buzzwords for FO. Maybe the person(s) who make the deal speak up.
Popcorn is ready....waiting....
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Post by Yojimbo on Jul 13, 2012 19:08:31 GMT
I won't say that this is a good trade I would advise someone agianst it but the value is really what those who are making the trade place on it. If a person feels the need to ask if something is a good trade then it rarely is.
Off topic note: I remembered one of the other items I got for my TA I also got a Crucible in addition to the other items mentioned.
Yes I would probably agree this thread is mostly an FO thread but there is decent discussion on the whole matter of how we perceive an objects value.
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jul 13, 2012 19:16:15 GMT
I don't think this thread does deserve to be in the FO. I wasn't trying to post a rant, which is what the FO is for. I was posting a legitimate concern I had over behaviour I feel is wrong and should be addressed.
The fact that the majority think opposite in no way takes away from the legitimacy of my concerns, this thread was not intended to be a flame at anyone. I became aware of what I thought was another person being treated unfairly and did something about it. I tried to make others aware of what was going on the same as most of you would if there was a PK'er or Loot Stealer about.
Since we don't have a complaint forum this was the next best place I felt it should be, as the forum bio says, 'Speak about anything on your mind'.
Cata
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Post by Tashsha on Jul 13, 2012 19:17:03 GMT
STOP IT ,STOP IT . . . NOW . . . i made a trade ,i agreed 2 it ,CATA my GM back down !
Tashsha
a mistake i will never make agian
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jul 13, 2012 19:22:30 GMT
My apologies Tashsha,
I didn't start this thread to upset you.
Cata
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Post by Michael Buble on Jul 13, 2012 19:32:20 GMT
How depressing. I thought this thread was going to be about a trade in sports.
Truly here's the deal. Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them. Regardless if it's a Company Stock, a Toaster or a Planewalker etc. If there is demand, someone has it available and someone else wants it then there's a trade option. The additional offers set the market value.
People shouldn't be complaining about how much someone paid for the PW, they should be looking at the fact that if someone else had offered less then the trade value currently in play the the price of the PW would diminish.
Bottom Line: If you think someone is getting ripped off on an item and you have one available then offer them a better deal and both parties will make out. If there are no alternative offers then he who has can demand whatever they want if someone's willing to pay for it.
And who knows, the items in a trade for example may mean much more / less to each person so you can't measure it at face value.
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Post by Werehound Silverfang on Jul 13, 2012 20:10:33 GMT
Wait, so the trade already happened? I can't offer one of my PWs for 15 PHs?
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