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cleric
Jun 4, 2013 15:51:19 GMT
Post by ALPHA RADIATION on Jun 4, 2013 15:51:19 GMT
i am bulding a 40 cleric and at lvl 6 now i starter with human aasimar and went 8 strenth 9 dexerity 8 constution 17 wisdom 8 inteligance 18 carisma and i went with extra turning toughness spell focus divation and grater spell focus divation so far how should i finish it
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cleric
Jun 4, 2013 16:30:22 GMT
Post by chainlink on Jun 4, 2013 16:30:22 GMT
Firstly I'm guessing this is going to be a turner if so to be honest I think you might have been better doing what I did when I built similar in -HC- and going Gnome Aasimar to get a Con boost.
I'd probably do the stats as follows -
Creation (Subrace) Str 6 Dex 8 Con 12 (you will get hit its worth having more Hit Points) Int 10 (There are a few skills you could do with maximising) Wis 18 (20) Cha 16 (18)
Why? Because the 8 points to get 2 more Cha at creation just aren't worth it and you're going to need to get Planar Turning which requires 25 Cha and Wis, unless you want to burn all but one of your Cleric bonus feats on Great Wis I'd spend a couple of points on Wis at levels 4 & 8 then all the rest can go into Cha. I'd take two Epics which my choice would be Eternal Return - Necromancy, trust me as a turner you're going to die this gives you a second chance! and my personal favourite Illusion which gives you the rather useful Death Phasm (and a physical infliction Creeping Doom if you took Plant Domain at creation) which comes in very handy for beating down stuff you can't vaporise or in fact turn at all. This will make a perfectly acceptable turner as can be vouched for by all the HC players that saw mine in Oinos and Hell before I stupidly killed him by falling asleep while playing.
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cleric
Jun 4, 2013 21:50:10 GMT
Post by Paradoom on Jun 4, 2013 21:50:10 GMT
Turners are pretty useless pre level 55 (that´s when u can enter hells the earliest) in most of the parts before. Make a normal cleric and reincarnate it later at level 60 into a turner. Easier and much more fun to play (unless of course you are going to play HC)
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cleric
Jun 5, 2013 10:27:53 GMT
Post by chainlink on Jun 5, 2013 10:27:53 GMT
If you are making a -HC- turner just play it like a below par standard cleric pre-55, there are plenty of low level things you can stun or destroy which makes some areas much less painful if you're playing solo. There are also a few spells that use Cha instead of Wis (noted in the description) if your Cha is higher.
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cleric
Jun 5, 2013 17:51:43 GMT
Post by leezard on Jun 5, 2013 17:51:43 GMT
that said, he will not have any focuse in any spells that use cha id highly recomend enchantment foci (girding) for rebuke gmw +15 (since wont have iof) abj foci(aegis) this will give very strong buffs (magic vestments, energy immunity ect) and can banish (more for abyss abo ely )aslo note if going this route would need spell pen to git the most out of it but as for turners being soft that is just a misconception based off poor builds they r not softer than a pure cleric but u have to pay attention . ps what happen to the spellcheck button? !!!!!!!!!
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cleric
Jun 5, 2013 20:19:35 GMT
Post by Test on Jun 5, 2013 20:19:35 GMT
that said, he will not have any focuse in any spells that use cha id highly recomend enchantment foci (girding) for rebuke gmw +15 (since wont have iof) abj foci(aegis) this will give very strong buffs (magic vestments, energy immunity ect) and can banish (more for abyss abo ely )aslo note if going this route would need spell pen to git the most out of it but as for turners being soft that is just a misconception based off poor builds they r not softer than a pure cleric but u have to pay attention . ps what happen to the spellcheck button? !!!!!!!!! Turners are definitely not soft with the right gear. I used to merrily stand in front of anything in Hells on mine and was very rarely in any real danger.
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cleric
Jun 6, 2013 11:53:43 GMT
Post by ALPHA RADIATION on Jun 6, 2013 11:53:43 GMT
This is what I have for build I need idea on 60+ feats gnome aasimar 6 str 8 dex 12 con 18 wis 10 int 16 cha and sf necro gsf necro gsf isus toughness extra turning extend spll impower spell and great carisma 7 great wisdom 3 esf ilus esf necro
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cleric
Jun 6, 2013 16:22:34 GMT
Post by chirality on Jun 6, 2013 16:22:34 GMT
Gnome? Why?
Gnome is a very odd choice for base race for aasimar turner...due -2 Cha this doesn't lend itself very well to turners; due small size it doesn't lend itself very well to clerics in general (limits gear options).
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cleric
Jun 6, 2013 19:32:59 GMT
Post by vulp on Jun 6, 2013 19:32:59 GMT
Gnome -2 cha??? I think it was +2 Con, -2 Str
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cleric
Jun 6, 2013 19:50:36 GMT
Post by chirality on Jun 6, 2013 19:50:36 GMT
oh yeah i'm stupid...dwarf is -cha
durp
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cleric
Jun 6, 2013 22:57:47 GMT
Post by ALPHA RADIATION on Jun 6, 2013 22:57:47 GMT
What about ideas on paragon feats is there a list any where nd dose that look ok
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cleric
Jun 6, 2013 23:13:42 GMT
Post by chainlink on Jun 6, 2013 23:13:42 GMT
Gnome? Why? Gnome is a very odd choice for base race for aasimar turner...due -2 Cha this doesn't lend itself very well to turners; due small size it doesn't lend itself very well to clerics in general (limits gear options). I did my original with Gnome as it gives a free spell focus in illusion and enables you to have slightly better Con, yes you're a shorty but there's a handy Dachy cleric drop in the form of a mace that I used to use on mine.
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cleric
Jun 7, 2013 1:22:41 GMT
Post by ALPHA RADIATION on Jun 7, 2013 1:22:41 GMT
Hey chainlink how wouldyou make a falen angal one you helped a lot with my asimar gonna tey to find a falen angal for a better cleric
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cleric
Jun 7, 2013 23:02:54 GMT
Post by chainlink on Jun 7, 2013 23:02:54 GMT
The FA build is pretty similar but easier as you have 3 more points of wisdom to play with at startup, plus the innate levitation they get makes a load of runs significantly easier to gear up for. However as you need to be level 50 before you can use the FA book you might have a wait before you can get it.
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cleric
Jun 7, 2013 23:25:18 GMT
Post by ALPHA RADIATION on Jun 7, 2013 23:25:18 GMT
S Fo would this be ok? Gnome fallen angel str6 dex8 con12 wis18 int10 cha16 Feats 1-20 is gsf ilusion extra turning sf necro gsf necro extend sf abjur gsf abjur Feats 21-40 is grate cha 1-7 grate wis 1-2 planar turning esf necro illus abjur Feats 41-60 is domain sun, domain good, domain destruction, ll spell pen, grate cha 8-10 Feats 60-80 is ?
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