Build help please.

[Yojimbo]

All class combos would do the full rogue duties as I mentioned in one of my first post if your Elf base you unlock able learner and you would take at least 1 rogue level at 40 to max rogue skill to 43 then pump them up in LLs through Able Learn to max or achieve enough that between gear & song bonus + stats & stat bonus you hit the 127 the build will need GR to do the job in Hell & Abyss but otherwise will handle the job.

I haven't worked out the best progression for what class to take when (besides 1 rogue level at 40) now have I gone over the skills and feats enough to know what you need.

I can say total skill points needed can run up to 314 just to cover Disable Trap, Search, & Open Lock, plus 5 points(included in the 314) in Set Trap for synergy bonus.

[murdrax]

you lost me lol i can follow and unsderstand visual step by step but coming up with it myself cant comprehend it.

[desocupado]

Sept 12, 2023 18:19:00 GMT murdrax said:

im not best at planning things out which is why i asked for help if you you or another are able to put a levelling guide for salamander 38 Ftr/1 Mnk/1 Rog that would be cool.

Salamander mostly suited for Red Dragon disciple (it can qualify for it on level 2, allowing BG or WM splash), Assassins (decent Str mod and an int bump) and Weapon master (Good Str and some required feats) builds.
It's possible to build sub-optimal Rangers, Barbarians, Fighters, Dwarf Defenders, Shadow dancers, Rogues or Staffmasters with it as well.

All this being said - making a build like my Half-Molydeus Str Assassin & Rogue - Rog 4 / As 30 / Bg 6 could achieve a str tank with rogue skills and some utility for fast farming with mortal strike. (keep in mind half molydeus have more int, so you need to reduce constitution and dexterity by 2 to offset that). It's a decent build for Rona.

[Methes]

Does it have to be CC Fighter? Cause running solo with unbuffed weapon will be so not fun even in LLs.

[chainlink]

If you really want to suffer the pain of trying to solo LL stuff with an unbuffed Fighter with that class combo go 20 Fighter to max pre Epic AB to 20, take the monk level after 20 (although you'll likely have had to take the Cleave feat and lost the benefit of it being free for a Monk by that point) and take the Rogue at 40 dumping into all the skills you need at that point.
While Elf base Able Learner allows you to keep taking these CC skills post 40 they will still cost you more than 1 for 1 so maximising at 40 saves you a load of points.
I'm not sure exactly what you are wanting to disable and unlock but I will say that getting to where they are is going to be the most difficult thing for that build if you are playing solo unless you have many hours to spare for every run.

[murdrax]

thats the catch im not planning on doing runs with this guy after reincarnation like desrt entratnce at crosswirds most ill explore is start map , etc big bosses not going for just going to loot things like water shrikes, drow starting areas etc all for looting stuff to build my stgockpile,and money supply my next toon which will be slamander dragon disciple, weaponmaster, third not sure of will be my explroing runs etc toon. does that help understand better.

[chainlink]

In which case it really doesn't matter as you'll not be hitting the end game DC opening requirements.
If its gold you are looking for randomize everything as one item with a Salamander's augment (the one with Daze immunity) added to it will get you more gold than weeks (possibly months) of farming chests for set loot will if you offer it up for sale to other players, 10 billion gold would be considered very very cheap!
Other augments can have a decent value too as can green added properties although these tend to be more saleable if on a decent base item.
In general set items (especially the ones from areas you are thinking about looting) have very little market value as most players have chests full of them.

[magecat]

Guess it depends on what you mean by gold farming. You can make millions easily by just farming the chest on the back side of the lost Temple where you find Queen Z.

Get the Picker to the location on all the servers with a lot of Bags of Holding, server hop until the Bags are all full, dump the loot in the seller, repeat until bored.

It is not as valuable as performing LL runs, but it is fast and you won't be putting anyone out.

[chainlink]

Another question would be what are you planning to do with the gold you are farming as this may affect the answers to your questions?

[murdrax]

buy stuff from auction chest etc like collect more races for more options for builds etc. literally me like run throuhg drow water skrikesd abondned temple etc unlokc id and sell everything thats not decent so if i dont find things sell it then use chests tpo get stuff i need or want.

[murdrax]

is magecat mentioned about chest bit i dont want to ruin runs etc just want to grab chests in places that wont harm runs and sell the loots thats not worth keeping. would love to in time buy stuff like pharlan etc so i can make builds around what you have like brownie rogue for example. and having fighter focus adds survivabiiliy, rogue givivng me ability to open the chests i need and disb;le trap, monk for its other benefits too. so i can just rinse and repeat grab sell grab sell so i can aquire what i need to get other toons up to spec.

And with slamander being two books i have thanks to kind donation by miles sets me up nicely. gives 2 survival perks in dode and moblity, and armorskin for free the 8 lore will help with identitfy at least lower loots that spawns at times. and slalander fire walking combined with 2 others i will get from monk means will only need 1 or the 4 rings since firewalking will be ring free, throuhg monk water breathing, and levitation for free so can wear my other rings in areas i possibnly vivist that needs those that wont hurt runs.

[desocupado]

Given the survival feats - wouldn't farming the elemental planes make more sense? (they are the main place where such feats are useful)
I'm pretty sure you could sell potions/components from that area to people running limbo, if you stockpile them. (limbo is the highest level area in the module)
Although the viability of this market strategy need to be confirmed by an actual limbo runner.

Truth be told you can just equip the respective elemental survival rings from pre-LL quests as needed. (there's also a subrace called Planewalker)

[Yojimbo]

I will say any build I put together while probably sub-optimal given the constraints would absolutely be viable to take in parties for most runs and will be gear dependent at times as to when and where it would not be good to run it. It would do ok if you have the weapons for it to go unbuffed to some LL areas like Fey & Elemental planes for example and maybe some easier LL areas can clear some maps with sufficient time like desert, db, or uro only probably struggling to solo the bosses.

[chainlink]

The advantage of playing in Feywild and the Elemental Planes is that the spawns scale with the amount of characters in party so you are less likely to get overwhelmed.

[desocupado]

If you have 2 salamander books, you might as well trade one for another subrace more suited for a good solo build. You can still reincarnate your fighter into a better UR subrace like stinger, one eyed or dragon blooded.

In fact you might as well make a salamander wizard or palemaster after you unlock it into your account (it still overperform a similar int open subrace and you can change the BUR subrace later).