Pyro-Shot(60 Ranger)

[gandoron]

To hit 70 str with Koly, and saves as listed in the build, I can do 2 of 3 skills
Search
Parry
CW (or CA)

I think CW and Search are the right picks, though Parry is tempting. I can normally keep crit imm up for most of the run, and many bards (though not enough) use the dirge crit imm (or 127 parry in outer) epic for big fights.

The AB with Brutal throw is going to be 7 lower right? so 93, is that reliable enough to use in abyss?

-G

[Lythe Featherblade]

considering you are not dual wielding (no -4), and you still have epic prowess, your ab will only be 2 less at range than meleeing if you have brutal throw. And that is quite decent. I have played a dexer version (using shortbow of course) with 70 dex and called shot at range worked quite nicely on the one abyss run I've been on so far.

[Rain]

I think the asmo belt is a whole more useful for a pure ranger than the others, +4 to dex/con is really a biggie if you want total safety against brachina and malebranche. Also the unlimited GS and +30 search are so made for this toon.

Anyway, EP belt is totally not needed on this ranger in my experience so far. even with UR gear on mine(lvl 56 or so I think and havenot visited hell yet) I've never had a time when I'm not crit imm in battle. And currently mine doesn't even have extended metamagic(cuz I chose call shot instead due to not being able to use the pandect yet). But extend itself still has a great value for sure.

Also I haven't played in abyss yet so not sure how exactly each of the checks is. Brutal throw as I planned but never had time to check how it exactly worked so I'm not sure about it. the AC on rangers before demi and after demi are a whole difference, so Armor Skin is skippable after you're able to fit asmo gear, your AC being high enough anyway. You can grab another FE at the cost of Armor Skin here. Extend Metamagic can be traded for brutal throw if it's really that useful.

Shame on you guys, cuz Salamander looks cooler on paper yet I know the animation sucksss....

[Hercules]

Apr 3, 2010 4:15:58 GMT Rain said:

I.

Shame on you guys, cuz Salamander looks cooler on paper yet I know the animation sucksss....

shame on you Rain for not blessing us with your presence.
Where are you hiding ?Are you coming back?


Herc

[Rain]

Not gonna be available for HG at least this year for me with tons of work and study to deal with. I'm keeping active on HG forum though. Anyway I need a break from online game, still remember whenever I was caught by the gf mass spawning a map with my Gate wizard, she would always complain "what's the fun of all these mess and lag on the screen?"(yeah, alluding to my old buddy desktop being too crappy )....Will catch you guys in game sometime later

[Rain]

Just reinc'ed my ranger, he's non demi atm, so this is the build I use for him with no demi stats. The one I posted before still applies to demi ranger. Since 15+Wis is useless, you can drop ur starting wis at demi. (Note 15wis is required to use extended lvl 4 slots, but after a careful check of the ranger gear, there's very few that gives lvl 5 slots atm unless u randomize it). Favored Enemies are chosen in the order according to the mob race in Hell/Elysium/Aboleth/Abyss. Also I've updated the Demi Koly version with Parry skill for Abyss. 38 Dex is also just enough to hit 127 Parry without penalty.




60 Ranger

Race/Subrace: Human Kolyarut



Alignment: Any
Stats bonus all go to Strength

Starting stats at lvl1 :
Str:16 (21 after subby change)
Dex:15 (20 after subby change)
Con:8 (12 after ranger bonus)
Int:10 (12 after subby change)
Wis:16 (14 after subby change)
Cha:8 (6 after subby change)

Stats at double demi with +14 item:
Str: 70
Dex: 38
Con: 32
Int: 32
Wis: 34
Cha: 26


Feats:

before Epic:
Blooded
Strong Soul
--Favored Enemy: Outsider
Weapon Proficiency (exotic)
--Favored Enemy: Abberation
Weapon Focus (katana)
Improved Critical (katana)
--Favored Enemy: Shapechanger
Iron Will
--Favored Enemy: Magical Beast
Lightning Reflexes
Great Fortitude
--Favored Enemy: Moustrous Humanoid

from lvl 20-40:
Great Strength I
--Favored Enemy: Vermin
Great Strength II
--Favored Enemy: Animals
--Favored Enemy: Dragons
Great Strength III
--Favored Enemy: Elementals
--Favored Enemy: Constructs
Great Strength IV
--Favored Enemy: Undead
Great Strength V
--Favored Enemy: Reptilian Humanoids
--Epic Weapon focus: Katana
Great Strength VI
--Epic Prowess
Great Strength VII
--Bane of Enemies

(Note: the feat with "--" in front means ranger bonus feats)


Legendary feats:
Legendary Skill Affinity (Tumble)
Legendary Weapon Focus (Katana)
Legendary Saving Throw (Hardened Soul)
Legendary Saving Throw (Will)
Great Strength VIII
Great Strength IX
Legendary Saving Throw (Reflex)


Tome: Enchantment
Consumed Artifact: the Hand of Vecna (Strength artifact)
Pandect: Accuracy without sight (call shot+blind fight)



Skills Points(at lvl 60):
Tumble: 60 (only take this after u have LSA:tumble)
Hide: 63
Listen: 63
Discipline: 63
Craft Armor: 63
Craft Weapon: 30
Concentration: 32

Final Save at lvl 60 as a Non-demi:
Fort:66
Reflex: 62
Will: 65


AC as a Non-demi is 129 with Song and Strongheart.





Gear at lvl 60:

Helmet: Visor of Vigilance
Armor: Shroud of the Earth Mother
Cloak: Corruption
Boots: Boots of the Legendary Defense
Belt: Nature's Writhing Waistband
Amulet: Strongheart (Ygrette's Evanescent Locket if you don't have Strongheart)
Bracer: Reach Out and Kill Someone
Main Hand: Crafted Weapon*
Offhand: Stygian Razor


*For Crafted Weapon, check it on the 4 Crafted Weapons on this thread:
highergroundpoa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=quasistaffmaster&action=display&thread=16190

[Hercules]

Gear at lvl 60:

Helmet: Visor of Vigilance
Armor: Shroud of the Earth Mother
Cloak: Corruption
Boots: Boots of the Legendary Defense
Belt: Nature's Writhing Waistband
Amulet: Strongheart (Ygrette's Evanescent Locket if you don't have Strongheart)
Bracer: Reach Out and Kill Someone
Main Hand: Crafted Weapon*
Offhand: Stygian Razor

What is your gear advise after Demi?
I bet you use the Asmo belt, but will that make you change anything else?
Also wondering what spells you use on your ranger normally
and what item you use, if you got one for x-tra slot or +1dc CS (besides Pom bracers)

I use:

Gear at lvl 60:

Helmet: Visor of Vigilance (ranger slots lvl 2 added)
Armor: Shroud of the Earth Mother
Cloak: Corruption (14 dex, wis)
Boots: BUR breach boots
Belt: Asmobelt
Amulet: Strongheart / pharaoh (depending where I am )
Bracer: Reach Out and Kill Someone / Eve's Arching ..
Main Hand: Dis katana (16cold/16acid /16sonic /16divine/12magic /12 pos )
Offhand: Stygian Razor


I made this build from your original koly post build, and it rocks really bad. Usually i do among the highest output and kills, unless I partty with some really triggerhappy mages/ sorcs/ clerics.


Cheers
Herc

[Eethen]

Jun 10, 2010 10:14:28 GMT Hercules said:

Also wondering what spells you use on your ranger normally
and what item you use, if you got one for x-tra slot or +1dc CS (besides Pom bracers)

Pom bracers don't give spellslots.

[Rain]

This is the Gear setup I plan to use on my ranger at demi:

Helmet: Visor of Vigilance (+14str/wis)
Armor: Leather of Betar Underhill (Physical Resist, Bigby imm and Spellslots)
Cloak: Corruption (+14dex and Elemental Resist)
Boots: Breach Boots (Breach imm)
Belt: Asmo Belt (Exotic Resist, Implosion imm, Poison imm and Unlimited GS)
Amulet: Ranger's Medal (+14Con, 15/+16 Resist and Spellslots )
Bracer: Reach Out and Kill Someone
Main Hand: Crafted Weapon*
Offhand: Stygian Razor

As you can see from this gear setup there isnot fear imm, thus I need to put a fear imm augment on any of the gear slot. Personally I'll put it on the UR armor which doesnot need to put stats augment on anyway. If you don't feel like depending on a Fear imm augment to make it whole, then I suggest using the POM ranger breach imm ring(with tons of spellslot bonus on) and drop Breach boots for a fear imm boots(Boots of Legendary Defense); or, use Nature's Boots and a Fear imm BUR cloak(there're lots of this cloak).

Strongheart is really not that useful on a Demi ranger since u'll have like 140ish AC with asmo belt and demi +4dex, +4wis bonus. Spellslots is easy to find on gear on rangers, BUR/UR ranger Armors, BUR ranger amulet and POM ranger rings, not to mention Ranger spellslot augment if u can afford a gear slot to put it on. and so far I never ran out of crit imm on 1 or even 2 maps without rest in my experince from LL to Hell.

I don't like the BUR ranger armor, the only use of it is the +14 stats u can randomize to get, but they can be easily gained from VOV and Corruption. the Bigby imm UR ranger armor is very nice, also have physical resist on(Luckily I randomized it to get 20/- to all physical and 20%ish physical imm too). Bigby imm is nice considering u wanna spawn and CS raks a lot.

I don't use the POM ranger ring cuz I'm using a +1CS dc ring, so I have to use breach boots instead.

Rangers with stygian razor's damage output is crazy, though mine doesnot have stygia tag yet to use razor. But damage was very satisfactory in tia and got 170ish kills on tia/dis.

[phalthallus]

I realize this is a strength variant, but if you flipped strength and dex to go the dex route, the Wings of the Deva is a great armor that would fit in to this setup, because it adds Fear Immunity, as well as +2 to str checks. It also lets you get up to +14 to str, dex, and cha. All of the skill boosts, minus Heal, are also very nice. You do, however, give up some spell slots. Even going the str route, it's worth a consideration. You don't need the +2 to str checks, but the other items fit nicely, if you have enough spell slots.

Just throwing out another gear option.

[starlandra]

Jun 10, 2010 11:02:19 GMT Eethen said:

Jun 10, 2010 10:14:28 GMT Hercules said:

Also wondering what spells you use on your ranger normally
and what item you use, if you got one for x-tra slot or +1dc CS (besides Pom bracers)

Pom bracers don't give spellslots.

no those are rona

[starlandra]

Jun 10, 2010 17:32:14 GMT phalthallus said:

I realize this is a strength variant, but if you flipped strength and dex to go the dex route, the Wings of the Deva is a great armor that would fit in to this setup, because it adds Fear Immunity, as well as +2 to str checks. It also lets you get up to +14 to str, dex, and cha. All of the skill boosts, minus Heal, are also very nice. You do, however, give up some spell slots. Even going the str route, it's worth a consideration. You don't need the +2 to str checks, but the other items fit nicely, if you have enough spell slots.

Just throwing out another gear option.

wing of deva work great on str too, as you can't be tossed with it on.

[Lythe Featherblade]

I find gear a lot harder... maybe partially because my ego items aren't on rings, and there are just far too many things to cover. Spell slots seem pretty hard to fit in, and I'm currently playing around with a str ranger concept, but can't seem to get away from katanas for weapons. I was even playing with a juggernaut 74 str 32 dex heavy flail (dev crit for weapon on a cloak I have) plus shield variant, but the AC never got quite high enough to satisfy me.

[jonuhey]

My setup is pretty simple, and still need some improvement. With randomization a gear setup isnt as easy as before, like for me I use a UR ranger belt with 2 level 5 slots and daze immunity, I wouldnt trade that for +4 to dex checks (I will use it for nessus however, tho Im thinking about buying some GS rods, what would be enough for asmo fight if anything goes wrong, as even pots helped me up to this point )

Ring1: Master aug with 100fire/25ish div/51 elec
Ring2: PW ring if I need mord/water breathing or signet of mammon in hells
Boot: Bur mord boot
Armor: Druid armor with +14str/dex
Helm: Crown of uncanny stability with +14 wisd (planning to use visor, but I need the constitution on this one for now)
Cloak: Asmo cloak for 50/- to all elements and exo immunities
Ammy: Pharaoh ammy
Belt: UR ranger belt with 2x 5 slots for crit immunity and UR aug with daze immunity, this belt has only 8 const ( I could swap the helmet for visor and then use spell to bump const to max, but for now I prefer this way)
Bracer: Pit bracer

My ranger isnt as a good damage dealer as one using razor is, but I really like having him small size, and as hes named Sora, he couldnt be a medium sized character (I know, I dot this kind of choices just because of silliness hehe)

EDIT: btw I have an extra rare ring with that master aug lythe, if you have any usable caster master aug we could chat and make a deal

[Rain]

It's really hard and also not necessary to standardize a Gear setup nowadays since there're lots of randomized items and also augments. Each players can make item of his own with a certain of luck and it is a must if you wanna get +14 stats actually. Thus I just listed the gear I'm planning to use since I can afford to add fear imm on items. But otherwise I'd suggest using amulet of pharoah, BUR ranger armor and POM breach ring. But surely if you can afford the Abyss ranger armor u can even drop corruption for cloak of the Titan and still use Ranger's medal. Even better, you can even use an Elysium fear imm mote if you can afford one.

As for non demi on my own ranger currently, I donot even bother with crit imm ranger spells cuz I'm using the crit imm belts. Thus I can use Polymorph: Pixie if I want to tank a malebranche. Main reason I do this is because I don't want to constantly rest for crit imm spells whenever I roll a 1 on amnesia though I have an ely amni imm ring for that case when I get tagged there later.