Open Subrace Sorcerer?

[Shroomery_]

Can anyone help me build an open subrace sorcerer? I don't know a thing about arcane casters and only have kenku to build off of so I figure theres another race that would suite it well. I don't want it to change appearance (hate the yuan-ti appearance) so any way you build it with any other race would be great! Thank you in advance!

Shroomery_

[Yojimbo]

Best bet I can see off hand is Nymphkin or Nereidkin

[Shroomery_]

I want a pure sorcerer, all cha and possibly evo/trans/illus/necro foci. Any help would be extremely welcome!

[Shroomery_]

Half-Elf Nymphkin: STR:8 DEX:13 CON:14 WIS:9 INT: 12 CHA: 18
-1wis, -1dex, +2cha

Half-Elf Nereidkin STR: 9 DEX:10 CON: 12 WIS: 9 INT:14 CHA: 18
-1str, -2int, +2cha

Pre-Epic Feats:

01: Spell Focus Transmutation
03: Spell Focus Evocation
06: Spell Focus Illusion
09: Greater Spell Focus Illusion
12: Greater Spell Focus Evocation
15: Spel Focus Necromancy
18: Greater Spell Focus Transmutation


Epic Feats:

21: Epic Spell Focus: Conjuration
23: Epic Spell Focus: Evocation
24: Epic Spell Focus: Transmutation
26: Greater Spell Focus Necromancy
27: Epic Spell Focus Necromancy
29: Great Charisma I
30: Great Charisma II
32: Great Charisma III
33: Great Charisma IV
35: Great Charisma V
36: Great Charisma VI
38: Extend Spell
39: Empower Spell


Legendary Feats:

42: Legendary Spell Penetration
45: Legendary Spell Focus Illusion
48: Legendary Spell Focus Necromancy
51: Great Charisma VII
54: Great Charisma VIII
57: Great Charisma IX
60: Great Charisma X

[wollstonecraft]

Your SF feat at 21 is wrong. I think you meant ESF: Illusion.
Also, you will get the chance to use a Spell Focus Tome at some point so, that will free up 3 feats along the way. You might even be able to acquire a tome now in preparation for your sorc.
You will want to include Greater Ruin into you feat selection then, and at least 50 ranks of Spellcraft. You might also want to add Blooded at level 1, and LSA: Tumble in Legendary Levels for the AC bonus.

As a new arcane player, I suggest taking your 40th level as a paladin level. This will give you uber high saves, shield proficiency, and the chance to dump some skill points into discipline.

-WSCraft

[wollstonecraft]

Here's the feat breakdown I envision:

Half-Elf Nereidkin STR: 9 DEX:10 CON: 12 WIS: 9 INT:14 CHA: 18
-1str, -2int, +2cha

Pre-Epic Feats:

01: Blooded
03: Spell Focus Evocation
06: Spell Focus Transmutation
09: Greater Spell Focus Evocation
12: Spel Focus Necromancy
15: Greater Spell Focus Transmutation
18: Extend Spell


Epic Feats:

21: Empower Spell
23: Epic Spell Focus: Evocation
24: Epic Spell Focus: Transmutation
26: Greater Spell Focus Necromancy
27: Epic Spell Focus Necromancy
29: Great Charisma I
30: Great Charisma II
32: Great Charisma III
33: Great Charisma IV
35: Great Charisma V
36: Great Charisma VI
38: Great Charisma VII
39: Greater Ruin
40: Paladin level -- dump skill points into Discipline

Legendary Feats:

41: Read Illusion Tome
42: Legendary Spell Penetration
45: LSA: Tumble
48: Legendary Spell Focus Illusion
51: Legendary Spell Focus Necromancy
54: Great Charisma VIII
57: Great Charisma IX
60: Great Charisma X

I think this is right. I just quickly shuffled the feats around.

-WSCraft

[Shroomery_]

Not correct. Thanks for trying though, I use the SP tome, tis why I took the 4 foci, cant fit GR in on that build and I am keeping it pure for the free dc and sp.

[wollstonecraft]

Yeah, I missed the Spell Pen tome. It's better to outline these things rather than having us guess.
I'll keep guessing and assume that you're leveling this build, not reincarnating.
Waiting until 41 to have any penetration might not be the best idea anyhow. By level 22, there will be SR checks that you won't be able to beat. Use a different tome.
Take GSF: Necro earlier and GSF: Trans later. Trans hasn't many useful spells in low levels, but Necro at least has CoD and UTD.
Consider taking LSF: Evo and going the damage route rather than the Insta-killer route. An open subrace will not have the same SP/ DC of higher tier subs.

Just advice.

-WSCraft

[Werehound Silverfang]

Look at T1K's kobold build. That's what I used. It was fantastic!

Though 4 Epics and Spell Pen makes for a squishy open race sorc.

[Restos]

Too bad you hate Yuan-Ti =(

[Yojimbo]

I would use tome for Evocation or Transmutation and pick up Spell Penetration earlier as well as Necromancy earlier. You could also consider dropping Evocation or Transmutation to get LSF in the other and some additional feats such as Greater Ruin.

[tomaan]

How about:

"Fire Gnome"
- STR -2, CHA +2, resist fire 5/-; can firewalk; speaks Ignan

Gnome gets 2 extra skill points per level in LLs and SF: Illusion for free.

And is it worth it to sacrifice a foci to take epic mage armor or epic warding?
(Sorry to hijack the thread...curious for a sor of my own).

[Shroomery_]

Dec 29, 2011 3:29:39 GMT Werehound Silverfang said:

Look at T1K's kobold build. That's what I used. It was fantastic!

Though 4 Epics and Spell Pen makes for a squishy open race sorc.

Where is his build? Can't seem to find it.

[maljin]

Here.

Not written by T1K, but essentially the same or very similar.

maljin

[uncanny]

I'd still use Yuan-Ti.
CHA +2, INT +1, DEX +1, WIS-3, STR -1, +5 Spellcraft, sr5 +1/lvl, speaks Draconic, speaks Yuan-ti. BC: Sorcerer
Here is why, besides the "human" and other things: BC: Sorcerer.
A BC (Bonus Class) means you will receive bonus (that's FREE) XP if you are that class, by default 10%. So just for being a sorcerer you will get a free 10% bonus to every kill xp. Believe me that makes a difference in LL levels.

I have made a bard back in the day using Yuan-Ti, I agree it's ugly to look at but it's a very favourable class imho for sorcerer.