Shroom's Swiss[UR Version](22R/5D/13S)

[Shroomery_]

Here is what I got for the rebuild, figured I would only be using humanoid forms really as they have all I need. Let me know what you think!

Human - Fallen Angel
STR: 8
DEX: 8
CON: 12
WIS: 18
INT: 16
CHA: 8

20 ranger, 5 druid, 13 shifter, 2 ranger

Max Animal empathy, craft armor, craft weapon, discipline, hide, listen, parry and tumble!

01: Blooded, Alertness, FE Outsiders
03: Armor Proficiency Heavy
05: FE Abberations
06: WF Unarmed Strike
09: GWF Unarmed Strike
10: FE Shapechangers
12: Improved Critical Unarmed Strike
15: Disarm, FE Monstrous Humanoid
18: Improved Disarm
20: FE Magical Beasts

21: EWF Unarmed Strike
24: Epic Prowess
27: Armor Skin
30: G WIS 1
33: G WIS 2
36: G WIS 3
38: G WIS 4
39: Bane of Enemies

42: LFF Humanoid 1
45: LSA Tumble
48: LFF Humanoid 2
51: LFF Humanoid 3
54: LWF Unarmed Strike
57: G WIS 5
60: ESF Parry

Read enchantment book!

What do you think? Good?

Shroomery_

[uncanny]

Hmmm Bane is an interesting twist, I like that .
With LWF you'll get some extra cutting power to boot. I would run this through the test chamber and get some AB/AC/Saves confirmations (you can work these out tbh, but I always feel more comfortable with !list results). LWF should give you an extra 3ab with prowess.

Are you sure you have enough to max all those skills? I think you can do four or five with some left over, not sure about eight (worth testing).
Animal Empathy might be of no use to the build.. I believe it only influences spells and ability damage like lore does on some casters (as I understand it anyhow), of which you only really have one ability that you'll use a lot (kobold trap): and the damage there is pretty sad once you hit upper LL anyhow, even with max AE as I have on my version of this I get very poor damage.

[maljin]

Skill points are gonna work out: Per level you get 4 from ranger/druid/shifter, 1 from human and 3 from int, so you can max 8 skills.

I'd drop AE to 1 (for the Oltum or other things before lvl 20) or two points as well though...unless you really want to emp animals.

AE does two things for a shifter: it boosts damage of abilities like lore does for casters (things like manti spikes, drider missiles or baelnorn posiFoD are not affected, same as lore doesn't affect magic missiles, horrids or FoDs) and it boosts harpy and leonal song similar to perform for bards.

Since all shifter abilities don't count ranger levels for effectiveness, damage from those will be lousy anyway with CC ranger. Kobold traps don't factor in ranger levels either, so it'll do poor damage regardless of foci, wis score or AE for this build.
Same for harpy song. While you can use it, it only counts shifter (and not even druid levels), so you're looking at a plain lvl 13 curse song.

I'd drop int by 2 for more con or take search instead of AE. Shifters have quite a lot of freedom in choosing their gear (no spell slots needed, shield ac doesn't matter, some forms give survival abilities) so finding and using some search gear for LL secrets shouldn't be that hard.

maljin

[Shroomery_]

I have improved disarm by note of shakua. Curious how I can get my AB higher? Highest I have is 107 in lizardfolk form, how can I raise this? Take more STR at creation to add to my form or?

Shroomery_

[BigStick]

You need to add the class breakdown into your topic.

I'm pretty sure that STR does not transfer to your shifted shapes.

[maljin]

Str and Dex never carry over to your shifted forms unless it's from demi stats or an artifact.

With 20 ranger levels pre-epic, ranger CC, all weapon feats and 120 craft weapon you're on the top of the hill. You'll only get higher with arti, demi or +14 items.

[tomaan]

Feb 3, 2012 17:19:15 GMT Shroomery_ said:

I have improved disarm by note of shakua. Curious how I can get my AB higher? Highest I have is 107 in lizardfolk form, how can I raise this? Take more STR at creation to add to my form or?

Shroomery_

That sounds about right. With arti and double demi, you should be about 110.

[Torin]

107 is what I calculate for CW+2.

+1 with STR Arty
+1 for CW+3
+2 rom Bane of Enemys against your FA
+2 double demi

Question: Does the positive dices from Blade thirst shift over to the weapon or not (spells says "For the Ranger's own weapon", he?)

[tomaan]

Feb 3, 2012 18:05:22 GMT Torin said:

Question: Does the positive dices from Blade thirst shift over to the weapon or not (spells says "For the Ranger's own weapon", he?)

Yes, you get 3d of positive damage against your FEs (but only with armed forms, not unarmed) when you shift if that's what you are asking.

[Shroomery_]

Looks good to you? Can anyone do some possible calculations for me at 40 shifted and at 60 shifted into different forms? Not sure how to do that.

Shroomery_

[Torin]

Thanks, Tomaan. Thats a huge pro for CC Ranger.

[maljin]

For a level 40 shifter you'll have to go to the test chamber, since the stats on the wiki are all listed for lvl 60 shifters with LFF3.

As for the lvl 60 char I think this post is exactly what you're looking for. I'll check it again though, maybe you gotta make some minor adjustments.

maljin

[edit]:
- the build in the linked post doesn't have all weapon focus feats, just add 4 ab for yours.
- you don't have any saving throw feats so subtract 4 fort and 6 reflex; your will save will be a bit higher.
- and make sure you're reading the second part of that post only, the upper part is for an open subby wm.

[uncanny]

You can still use the test chamber up to 60... just use !level.

[tomaan]

Try this link:

highergroundpoa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=buildtalk&action=display&thread=8178

It really helped me figure out how to figure things out

[Shroomery_]

How would you level this? Like, dress like a tank, shift then tank or just tank in human form? How would it do shifted then tanking as the lizardfolk pre-legendary form focus? Really want to level this but worried it might be a bit rough, so any help with be great!

Shroomery_