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Jun 19, 2013 23:51:08 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 23:51:08 GMT
KE was just warning everyone that Alpha is a new account detected on Chaos' (and another well-known long-time member's) IP. Because Chaos is a well-known scammer with dozens of accounts that operates by taking advantage of the kindness of others by pretending to be a new player, I don't think it's unreasonable to let people know this fact. Yes, it's not directly related to the topic title but I think it's a better solution than starting a new topic.
I apologize for the heightened scrutiny if you are in fact a new player, a brother of Chaos, that has not held any previous accounts here. Given Chaos' history, however, I don't think it's unreasonable to alert people that you are a new account on Chaos' IP and may potentially not be as new as you appear to be.
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Jun 19, 2013 23:51:22 GMT
Post by nahorl on Jun 19, 2013 23:51:22 GMT
Would just like to say that this was all sorted out on the DM forum months ago and that he really is the younger brother so telling him to go to hell really isn't that fair.I would not like to be tarred with the same brush as the rest of my family i believe we should all be treated as individuals and want to be treated on my own merits.
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Jun 20, 2013 0:04:47 GMT
Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jun 20, 2013 0:04:47 GMT
It might well be if they are siblings - Same questions like always God forbid a newbie should ask something different, shudders. - Not asking for items? Yeah tells me how much you realy know. My apologies, I always get confused with the words 'Where do I find?' and 'Can I have'...silly me - tons of "new" accounts again and again as you can see in KE´s post This is a kid......and if we are gunna have a go at people for having multiple accounts then well over half the current server population, including over half the DM's and I'm 99% sure FUnky also, need a good ass kicking...... - credibility is absolutly Zero Yeah what's that say about every other member who has multiple accounts? Talking about work on making and keeping the Server popular? Just a Suggestion: consider this part of the effort for that. Part of the effort? Lolz, seriously, nice effort, no sarcasm from me here.....HONEST......give him a gold star, picking on a kid, nice work... Do you even know yourself what you wanted to express with that last post??? Pretty much exactly what I did express, disgust, annoyance, I'd say disappointment but I'm not really...... to alpha/chaos/valkyry etc: If you are realy his brother, then you can thank him many times for beeing treated as you are and maybe he will explain you, his irrational and unsocial behavior (time and time again) In the other much more realistic case, that you are just another reincarnation of chaos, you can go to hell, noone cares! To any one reading this who is considering joining our community please understand Paradoom's opinions are not the opinions of most of the server, 99% of us aren't this idiotic......most of us will prefer to treat you on your own merits and not on the behaviour of some one you have no control over. And Tank, I'm ever so glad you approve, as always I'm always happy to be appreciated. Cata
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Jun 20, 2013 0:05:08 GMT
Post by Paradoom on Jun 20, 2013 0:05:08 GMT
u are bored aint ya? Dramaqueen.
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Jun 20, 2013 0:09:07 GMT
Post by tank on Jun 20, 2013 0:09:07 GMT
cata needs a hug
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Jun 20, 2013 0:10:16 GMT
Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jun 20, 2013 0:10:16 GMT
Actually yes, bored of the attitudes of some people on here. However, I'm really wondering why I'm bothering to post, nothing will change so what's the point? Nothing will be done about this.
If this was all sorted out on DM Forum ages ago as Nahorl mentions then not only, imo, is KE out of order posting what he did considering peoples attitudes towards Chaos, he must have known the OP was only a child and that his comments would not only upset said child but is nothing more than pure and simple and totally uncalled for bullying....
Just what we want in our DM's.......
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Post by Paradoom on Jun 20, 2013 0:12:17 GMT
Would just like to say that this was all sorted out on the DM forum months ago and that he really is the younger brother so telling him to go to hell really isn't that fair.I would not like to be tarred with the same brush as the rest of my family i believe we should all be treated as individuals and want to be treated on my own merits. Well that is somehting I consider a reliable source. In that case I apologize to you Alpha Radiation. But as you can see by alot of the posts done, the general experience with your brother, left a realy bad impression and high waryness. I hope you can understand the reactions and misstrust, and do not take it personal. Since that is cleared I hope you enjoy your time on the server.
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Jun 20, 2013 1:51:27 GMT
Post by tank on Jun 20, 2013 1:51:27 GMT
you know cata, you've completely derailed this thread instead of giving him info on where to find items.
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Jun 20, 2013 1:51:35 GMT
Post by chirality on Jun 20, 2013 1:51:35 GMT
Cata I really don't understand your reaction to my post. I think my question was pretty reasonable. I don't see any other motivation for returning to post here if you quit the game, to post "I quit because people here suck". If it's not spite it's at the very least pretty lame, because it doesn't achieve anything except to cast a negative judgment for someone else to latch on to--in this case the "someone else" being either a new player or a vet scammer. That's the oldest trick in the book amongst spiteful vets who quit: return to post on the forums to talk crap about HG.
Edit: By the way I do assume that your reaction was because you know the person and think it laughable that they'd show that behavior. But I call it like I see it. When I see a player who doesn't regularly post and hasn't posted in a long time, suddenly appear just to make a post about how they quit because peoples' bad attitude, without any other content in the post, it seems spiteful. I'm sorry if that's offensive and hostile. Yet I found it kind of offensive and hostile to interject just to say "btw new player, this is why I quit this game". Shrug. That comes off like "don't play here", which again coming from an "ex" player sounds spiteful.
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Jun 20, 2013 8:10:21 GMT
Post by FunkySwerve on Jun 20, 2013 8:10:21 GMT
Nice going Brad,but then yer a DM, why should you be nice when you can be an ass....... And yeah, go on, am waiting for the telling off Funky........ Cata Why on earth would I tell off KE? He's outing some pretty reprehensible behavior. We tried dealing with it in other ways already - last I heard, there actually IS a parent account, and he was supposed to have a chat with his 'kid' about making all these silly alts and begging for loot while pretending to be a new player. There's an extensive DM thread on the subject, and we're all frankly somewhat fed up with the situation, which has been going on for literally yearas. I have actually considered limiting new account creation by IP to deal with it (that is, only X number of accounts per ip, post on forum to add another), though the additional hassle to people playing at universities etc just makes it not worth it, in my opinion. For now, given the potential amount of dev time it'd take to fix in a non-burdensome way, I'm more than content to let KE police it. Funky
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Jun 20, 2013 8:37:19 GMT
Post by merrymaiden on Jun 20, 2013 8:37:19 GMT
Spite was not the motivation behind my post, I saw someone asking for help and what help did they receive from the administration? The assumption was obviously made that a trouble maker was back but this assumption seems to be incorrect. I am glad that the teachers at school didnt assume I was a trouble maker just because my brother was, cause I would of had a pretty rough time. There didn't appear to be any malicious intent behind the op. I realise noone cares why I left the server and that most of you are probably happy with the people that are left, but numbers appear to be dwindling, only 7 people on yesterday evening at 10pm BST. People want to have fun I left for a number of reasons, attitudes of a few people being one of them. HG was no longer fun to play on. My motivaton for posting was I didnt see the need for the manner in which the op was dealt with. Too often on this forum people are shot down in flames when they try to share their thoughts and opinions - now even asking for help. Its a shame that there appears to be a need for the game to be 'policed' especially when a crime wasnt even committed.
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Jun 20, 2013 10:05:22 GMT
Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jun 20, 2013 10:05:22 GMT
Nice going Brad,but then yer a DM, why should you be nice when you can be an ass....... And yeah, go on, am waiting for the telling off Funky........ Cata Why on earth would I tell off KE? He's outing some pretty reprehensible behavior. We tried dealing with it in other ways already - last I heard, there actually IS a parent account, and he was supposed to have a chat with his 'kid' about making all these silly alts and begging for loot while pretending to be a new player. There's an extensive DM thread on the subject, and we're all frankly somewhat fed up with the situation, which has been going on for literally yearas. I have actually considered limiting new account creation by IP to deal with it (that is, only X number of accounts per ip, post on forum to add another), though the additional hassle to people playing at universities etc just makes it not worth it, in my opinion. For now, given the potential amount of dev time it'd take to fix in a non-burdensome way, I'm more than content to let KE police it. Funky Sigh stupid forum ate my post again..... First of all I wasn't asking you to tell KE off Funky, you misunderstood my post, perhaps I should have said I am waiting for my telling off, I was expecting you to tell me off for my post not KE for his. Why on earth would I expect you to go against a DM? Secondly do explain to me what exactly is reprehensible about asking for info on WHERE to FIND loot? It was a very polite post imo. They even said thanks in advance. Had Alpha been asking for people to give them loot I'd have been one of the first to have a go and I'd have even defended KE's post. However unless Alpha has been spamming chat in game or people's inbox's with requests for free loot I see no reason at all for Officer KE's need to do anything but offer helpful advice instead he offered an over reactive 'outing' of usernames that may or may not belong to Alpha. Heck I wish Officer KE had been about when Bad was lying to the server.......... Now you say there is a parental account that was 'supposed' to have a word with their kid about this? And you say that all the DM's are fed up of it? You think the players are any less fed up of it? After all we're the ones who see the begging daily when we are in game.......so instead of actually inboxing the parental account and talking to that person about this to see if they are dealing with it before going ahead and outing some one as a 'beggar' on a thread where they weren't actually begging for loot it is ok for Officer KE to just tell the server the guys just a reinc of Chaos? I'm not particularly a big fan of my country, most of the time I hate it but heck, at least here its customary to give the facts at least a cursory once over before actually accusing some one of something Cata
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Jun 20, 2013 10:15:23 GMT
Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jun 20, 2013 10:15:23 GMT
Cata I really don't understand your reaction to my post. I think my question was pretty reasonable. I don't see any other motivation for returning to post here if you quit the game, to post "I quit because people here suck". If it's not spite it's at the very least pretty lame, because it doesn't achieve anything except to cast a negative judgment for someone else to latch on to--in this case the "someone else" being either a new player or a vet scammer. That's the oldest trick in the book amongst spiteful vets who quit: return to post on the forums to talk crap about HG. Edit: By the way I do assume that your reaction was because you know the person and think it laughable that they'd show that behavior. But I call it like I see it. When I see a player who doesn't regularly post and hasn't posted in a long time, suddenly appear just to make a post about how they quit because peoples' bad attitude, without any other content in the post, it seems spiteful. I'm sorry if that's offensive and hostile. Yet I found it kind of offensive and hostile to interject just to say "btw new player, this is why I quit this game". Shrug. That comes off like "don't play here", which again coming from an "ex" player sounds spiteful. Sigh sorry for the double posting, it isn't intentional, I think Chrome is being an ass or the Forums are.... It's simple, Merry is a long time player on HG, I can't remember ever seeing her be spiteful, Merry and her partner Nahorl are long time friends and guild mates of mine, I've talked to them in game and on Skype for years and I know them as well as one can get to know some one without meeting them face to face. I'd even go so far as to say that along with a few select others I'd trust her opinion on game stuff before I'd trust half the DM team. I don't think it laughable that she would show that kind of behaviour, I know it. Like myself and many others she plays on HG rarely these days because of the attitudes of an alarmingly large number of people have driven us away so now we tend to only play when we can get together with people we know and trust and are guaranteed to have fun with. Merry wasn't the only one who found KE's post somewhat repulsive. She was just the first to comment on it.... Cata
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Jun 20, 2013 11:51:03 GMT
Post by tank on Jun 20, 2013 11:51:03 GMT
So far, cata has had nothing positive to say, only negativity towards most of the current player base, and pretty much all of the DM staff. Why are you even posting? Why do you feel the need to dramawhore it up? isn't there some life crisis for you to deal with somewhere else?
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Jun 20, 2013 12:14:26 GMT
Post by tank on Jun 20, 2013 12:14:26 GMT
What exactly is the topic at hand? All I see is you bashing as many people as you can because you have nothing else to do. As I pointed out earlier, you haven't even bothered to help this poor victim you keep defending, all you do is keep the drama going. All I can say is that it's a better place when cata isn't around to lead 5 hour (anything) runs and turn out builds that have more devastating effects than anything that could be said here(thanks for quitting btw).
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