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Jun 22, 2013 18:29:16 GMT
Post by ALPHA RADIATION on Jun 22, 2013 18:29:16 GMT
Chaos dose not play nemore exept when i ask him to help me get tags i do not now how to proove im not him exept to play and try to get a long with peeple.
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Jun 22, 2013 19:47:27 GMT
Post by Paradoom on Jun 22, 2013 19:47:27 GMT
Welcome to the Higher Ground Minority Report... It's probable that a crime will be committed, so I am justified in pre-emptively lynching the (potential) perp. Yeah right, "could" commit.... You understood nothing, do ya? For the record, you just rationalized your behavior, one of the worst offenses in the collective gaming world. Oh my gawd. After litteraly YEARS of experience regarding chaos and his schemes you are seriously expecting others and myself to behave indifferent and naivly unsceptic towards someone who claims to be new with the same ip and cd-key? So instead we should all stay silent and leave him be? Get real. And your comparison is just plain nonsense, because you are missing to see the whole picture. Even (like it seems) without haveing any personal experience with him, just look at the accounts created alone. Since even you can see what was done with that accounts and esp. cd keys, you should start seeing that there is something realy wrong. And using one of those accounts and then saying I am not him and new, is mildly said, hard to believe, after what happend in the past again and again. Axis spoke with chaos and he says it is his child for real. While I believe axis I do not do chaos. But in all what it´s worth and as I wrote in another post: He get´s a chance. But I have my doubts, and they are not a gut feeling. So yeah call me a jerk for it, but in this special case I sleep very well with it. It is used for spawn camping, "If you were good enough, you wouldn't be dying in spite of the fact that you are under our guns before you have control of your character", loss of population "It's not my fault they got offended and left, they don't have to listen to me being a jerk", and various other applications of, "it's your fault I am behaving this way". As said before: has nothing to do with what happened here. Whether you want to hang "Their name is legion", think about what YOUR posts are telling people that may be considering joining this community. Most of this thread has been arrogant, high handed and obnoxious. If I were a first timer, you would have succeeded in driving me off because I wouldn't want to join a crowd this nose in the air. Sounds like you don`t like cata. One question though: Who are you even? I do not recognize your forum name.
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Jun 22, 2013 20:52:40 GMT
Post by chirality on Jun 22, 2013 20:52:40 GMT
I think he's Crystoph--guessing from trade request I saw ingame + here on forums (by the way I have your kat if you still want it, had it banked for a year or 2 on lowbie mule but at this point I'll never use it I think...will find you ingame if you're still looking for it)
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Jun 22, 2013 22:29:53 GMT
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Post by Raj on Jun 22, 2013 22:29:53 GMT
This thread is useless and causes forum lag.
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Jun 22, 2013 23:11:12 GMT
Post by tank on Jun 22, 2013 23:11:12 GMT
This thread is useless and causes forum lag. I'm not sure we have straightened the DM's out on proper etiquette yet, that's at least 5 more pages of repeating the same thing
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Jun 23, 2013 0:06:29 GMT
Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jun 23, 2013 0:06:29 GMT
Cata, As you are now entering the mea culpa phase of this thread and have started to pass out apologies, it needs to be noted that you took a cheap, pointless, and totally gratuitous shot at Bad in your second post. You'll have to point out the cheap shot at Bad, what I said about Bad was nothing but the truth. Or is trying to help the server something he doesn't want to be made public knowledge? In that case my apologies for insinuating you did a lot of work to try to help the server Bad. Besides, I'm supposed to be a Troll, isn't feeding me a 'bad' idea? Cata
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Jun 23, 2013 0:28:14 GMT
Post by AuBricker on Jun 23, 2013 0:28:14 GMT
Cata,
Feeding you a bad idea? I always try to help out when I see a train wreck, and your posts have the makings of true tragedy.
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Jun 23, 2013 0:36:50 GMT
Post by AuBricker on Jun 23, 2013 0:36:50 GMT
“To live is to war with trolls.” ? Henrik Ibsen
“Trolls suck.” ? Betty White
"Trolls are horrid carnivores..." - Gary Gygax
"I'm supposed to be a Troll" - Cata
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Jun 23, 2013 0:55:43 GMT
Post by magecat on Jun 23, 2013 0:55:43 GMT
Welcome to the Higher Ground Minority Report... It's probable that a crime will be committed, so I am justified in pre-emptively lynching the (potential) perp. Yeah right, "could" commit.... You understood nothing, do ya? You know even if it is true, it´s certain that chaos uses that account as well. Nope, pretty sure I understood exactly what I said. You just rationalized YOUR behavior by saying that, even if the person is not guilty, my behavior is acceptable because I believe that something unrelated justifies it. For the record, you just rationalized your behavior, one of the worst offenses in the collective gaming world. Oh my gawd. After litteraly YEARS of experience regarding chaos and his schemes you are seriously expecting others and myself to behave indifferent and naivly unsceptic towards someone who claims to be new with the same ip and cd-key? So instead we should all stay silent and leave him be? Get real. And your comparison is just plain nonsense, because you are missing to see the whole picture. Even (like it seems) without haveing any personal experience with him, just look at the accounts created alone. Since even you can see what was done with that accounts and esp. cd keys, you should start seeing that there is something realy wrong. And using one of those accounts and then saying I am not him and new, is mildly said, hard to believe, after what happend in the past again and again. Axis spoke with chaos and he says it is his child for real. While I believe axis I do not do chaos. But in all what it´s worth and as I wrote in another post: He get´s a chance. But I have my doubts, and they are not a gut feeling. So yeah call me a jerk for it, but in this special case I sleep very well with it.[/quote] You miss my point. My entire post is about how other people will perceive this incident. Ethical behavior, which this event was largely without, is about personal best behavior. Whether Chaos/Alpha/etc... is one person, forty or some here to fore unknown AI that delights in abusing humans, the community has acted inappropriately. It is used for spawn camping, "If you were good enough, you wouldn't be dying in spite of the fact that you are under our guns before you have control of your character", loss of population "It's not my fault they got offended and left, they don't have to listen to me being a jerk", and various other applications of, "it's your fault I am behaving this way". As said before: has nothing to do with what happened here. Whether you want to hang "Their name is legion", think about what YOUR posts are telling people that may be considering joining this community. Most of this thread has been arrogant, high handed and obnoxious. If I were a first timer, you would have succeeded in driving me off because I wouldn't want to join a crowd this nose in the air. Sounds like you don`t like cata. One question though: Who are you even? I do not recognize your forum name. [/quote] I think very highly of Cata, and always have. Trying to redirect my post toward him does not help your position, but it does reinforce mine. I have been in and out of this community for years. Yes, my original forum account was Chrystoph, but I deleted the account the first time I walked away from this community because of this type of behavior. As a result of that delete, I had to create a new account on the forums. You are probably unfamiliar with me because I have not played in over a year because I again walked away when I got too frustrated with this sort of behavior. The only reason that I keep coming back is the quality of the environment and a couple of individuals.
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Jun 23, 2013 0:57:20 GMT
Post by magecat on Jun 23, 2013 0:57:20 GMT
I think he's Crystoph--guessing from trade request I saw ingame + here on forums (by the way I have your kat if you still want it, had it banked for a year or 2 on lowbie mule but at this point I'll never use it I think...will find you ingame if you're still looking for it) My thanks for the offer. I will take you up on it. We can discuss in the game when I find you.
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Jun 23, 2013 2:34:31 GMT
Post by Paradoom on Jun 23, 2013 2:34:31 GMT
hach u are fun.
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Jun 23, 2013 4:00:33 GMT
Post by FunkySwerve on Jun 23, 2013 4:00:33 GMT
Welcome to the Higher Ground Minority Report... It's probable that a crime will be committed, so I am justified in pre-emptively lynching the (potential) perp. If we had 'lynched' him, his ip would be banned - as just about any other gaming community would have, by this point. By contrast, we believe in a lighter touch, making this remark all the stupider. It never fails to amaze how some players are willing to complain about ANYTHING and EVERYTHING under the sun. We assume a certain goodwill and trust on the part of the community. If you don't trust us, you shouldn't play here, as we could have easily fabricated all that later-posted information you're referring to. I already took pains to point this out to Cata. Of course, if you can't reason that much out for yourself, I doubt my pointing it out a second time is going to penetrate, but hope doth burn eternal, and stuff. Of course, you would not only have to not trust us, you would also have to believe that we are secretly conspiring to drive innocent people away from the server because of rank stupidity, perversity, or a sekrit desire to have no one get to see the content we spend countless hours producing. Which is, frankly, just moronic. Or - just a thought - you could try shaving with Occam's razor. Could it be we actually have an incentive to protect our playerbase? No! Perish the thought. Playing the benighted prole is ever so much more fun. Really, it's terribly rude of us not to go a little Orwell on your ass so you have at least a semblance of an excuse. Sorry bout that - I'll see about organizing an UR racebook burning in the town square next reset. I would advise you to consider your own advice. I stand by everything I've written in this thread. The only thing that stands as an embarrassment to this community is posts like yours, which are both amazingly ill-thought-through and lacking in even a semblance of gratitude for the time and effort of the Team. Yes, we had the temerity to get your back. By all means, <insert severely misplaced lynching reference here> us for our trouble, because we didn't post a 100-page indictment that met your lofty (and utterly unrealistic standards) when we did so. By contrast, what my posts are communicating is the same thing they have for the past decade - a lack of tolerance for player shenanigans and rank stupidity. It's worked pretty well so far. If, for whatever reason, after reading this thread, you are so concerned that you'll be run off the server because someone stole your ip, your cd keys, and your birthday, well, you can rest easy - you've likely got a good seven years before we resort to lyn... er, outing you. If that keeps you up nights, well, by all means, let the door smack you in the backside on the way out, as we usher in a new era of ironfisted something something. *plays Imperial March* Oh, look, a brick wall. I'm going to go bang my head against it. Toodles. Funky PS And no, pointing out stupidity isn't the same as arrogance. It only seems like it to those unable to recognize the difference. Gee, that sounded SUPER arrogant. Er, I mean, no it didn't!
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Jun 23, 2013 5:07:55 GMT
Post by arek on Jun 23, 2013 5:07:55 GMT
Cata, As you are now entering the mea culpa phase of this thread and have started to pass out apologies, it needs to be noted that you took a cheap, pointless, and totally gratuitous shot at Bad in your second post. You'll have to point out the cheap shot at Bad, what I said about Bad was nothing but the truth. Or is trying to help the server something he doesn't want to be made public knowledge? In that case my apologies for insinuating you did a lot of work to try to help the server Bad. Besides, I'm supposed to be a Troll, isn't feeding me a 'bad' idea? Cata Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm still seeing reasonable doubt here.........and again I agree the same birthday thing makes that unlikely but you know, it really isn't unheard of for kids to give out older siblings birthdays to make em seem older in order to be accepted in a group of older people. And since you actually have a male DM who claimed to be female for, what was it, research purposes? You can hardly deny that it is entirely possible for the age to be a lie. (relevant part of the quote bolded) I very nearly called you out on this myself, Cata. Yes, it's the truth, but it could still be construed as a pretty cheap shot. --Arek
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Jun 23, 2013 5:16:46 GMT
Post by bazukar on Jun 23, 2013 5:16:46 GMT
It is a cheap shot. No need to construe anything, it was pretty blatant.
And I feel the need for clarification: Cata is not a troll. He simply has one of the worst cases of Clinical Last-word-itis I have ever seen.
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Jun 23, 2013 5:18:24 GMT
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Post by Raj on Jun 23, 2013 5:18:24 GMT
And there I tought it was the only funny thing Cata wrote so far
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