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Post by Epsilon on Nov 24, 2017 22:21:23 GMT
I haven't played in several years, but if HG adds support for the new EE I would definitely give it another try (I know of another person in a similar situation, and I bet that quite a few others would come back too!)
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Post by bubsnaga on Nov 24, 2017 23:50:30 GMT
I have been a player on and off for awhile, started a month or so before funk n crew took the reins over. The most fun time I have had in an video game was when the server was wiped and we all started over at level 1. Full parties all bouncing into each other. The crypts were rocking 24/7. Instant invites at log-in. instant action! People giving out gear/gold, everyone curious about what roll/class you were building. O!!!! and the loot was MOVED!!! Those tricky DM's decided to scatter loot to the four corners of the world! Jugrum(spelling?) the orc boss in mines that drops haste boots<spoiler>. Nostalgia.....rose-tinted glasses......tin foil hats!!!!!!!
Is there any possibility that this will happen again?
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Post by chirality on Nov 25, 2017 2:41:04 GMT
I haven't played in several years, but if HG adds support for the new EE I would definitely give it another try (I know of another person in a similar situation, and I bet that quite a few others would come back too!) Is this because of the improved (" ") gfx, new potential options for dev/modding, or simply because EE would be a "new thing" period? It's curious to only have motivation to play HG due EE. What kept you from playing last few years and what exactly about EE renews that interest?
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Post by Test on Nov 25, 2017 5:23:38 GMT
I have been a player on and off for awhile, started a month or so before funk n crew took the reins over. The most fun time I have had in an video game was when the server was wiped and we all started over at level 1. Full parties all bouncing into each other. The crypts were rocking 24/7. Instant invites at log-in. instant action! People giving out gear/gold, everyone curious about what roll/class you were building. O!!!! and the loot was MOVED!!! Those tricky DM's decided to scatter loot to the four corners of the world! Jugrum(spelling?) the orc boss in mines that drops haste boots<spoiler>. Nostalgia.....rose-tinted glasses......tin foil hats!!!!!!!
Is there any possibility that this will happen again?
Given the XP required for 80 and the investment into races and gear I will say: Hopefully Not.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 15:25:04 GMT
I have been a player on and off for awhile, started a month or so before funk n crew took the reins over. The most fun time I have had in an video game was when the server was wiped and we all started over at level 1. Full parties all bouncing into each other. The crypts were rocking 24/7. Instant invites at log-in. instant action! People giving out gear/gold, everyone curious about what roll/class you were building. O!!!! and the loot was MOVED!!! Those tricky DM's decided to scatter loot to the four corners of the world! Jugrum(spelling?) the orc boss in mines that drops haste boots<spoiler>. Nostalgia.....rose-tinted glasses......tin foil hats!!!!!!!
Is there any possibility that this will happen again?
Given the XP required for 80 and the investment into races and gear I will say: Hopefully Not. Yeah, a full reset would prob drive off the entire current player base. I've no interest in playing lowbies. 1-40 open race can be done on any server, the whole reason hg is so good is the added 40 levels and additional races and content.
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Post by condude on Nov 26, 2017 0:07:52 GMT
I'd be up for a full reset, but I'm weird like that and really enjoy low levels. I also know it would never even be considered, and rightfully so.
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Post by Epsilon on Nov 26, 2017 17:37:21 GMT
Is this because of the improved (" ") gfx, new potential options for dev/modding, or simply because EE would be a "new thing" period? It's curious to only have motivation to play HG due EE. What kept you from playing last few years and what exactly about EE renews that interest? For both reasons. And Steam integration, which makes everything so much more convenient. The EE will add some much needed improvements, new netcode (as a EU player it's not fun to get rubber-banded all the time due to monster spawns), some cool new toys (individual clothing parts dyes for instance), and I suspect that like me a lot of old time players will get this edition instead of simply trying to find their old CDs (and a CD player) or to buy the "old" version on GoG. Newcomers that got their curiosity peaked by this unique game will most definitely only get the "Enhanced Edition" too. If I want to recommend HG to my friends who are into D&D but never played NWN before, saying "don't get the new enhanced version, get the old one instead" won't fly. Edit: I'd be cool with a full reset too.
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Post by drunkenboastor on Nov 26, 2017 18:11:24 GMT
Full reset people, always easy to be accepting of a loss when you have nothing to loose.
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Post by dopplegang on Nov 26, 2017 18:24:21 GMT
Agreed, I didn't put in 2000+ hours literally, as a conservative estimate, of my life to have it erased on the whim of people who aren't even interested enough to play right now. I run lowbie tags every couple weeks anyway and plenty of people do, if you need a party shout for it. If people want to start over there is a delete button for that. Wiping the player database is equivalent to wiping the player base.
Another point to note about EE is one that essentially ruined my interest in BG EE as well and is summed up in some of the reviews of baldurs gate enhanced:
The problem is in the bugs that accompany the game. There are many that are simply game breaking that put you to a full stop right in the middle or just don't allow you progress. The second big issue (for me anyway) is the price point. This is WAY overpriced in my opinion when you can get the older version for half the price and are far less likely to have any sort of bug stop you from completing the game
Granted these bugs have reportedly been fixed, but it took years to do that and I would not be surprised at all if it will take just as long to integrate old nwn to EE and will probably cause plenty of grief in the interim.
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Post by condude on Nov 26, 2017 18:35:32 GMT
Actually... would an effective solution be to make the enhanced edition server start with everyone having nothing? That way any newer players who only find HG because of that start on the same playing field, but vets and new players who want to play with the vets can stay on original HG? I, for one, would definitely be on both.
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Post by Test on Nov 26, 2017 18:52:32 GMT
Actually... would an effective solution be to make the enhanced edition server start with everyone having nothing? That way any newer players who only find HG because of that start on the same playing field, but vets and new players who want to play with the vets can stay on original HG? I, for one, would definitely be on both. Honestly, this is a dreadful idea.
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Post by Test on Nov 26, 2017 18:54:58 GMT
Wiping the player database is equivalent to wiping the player base. I think that this really hits the nail on the head.
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Post by dopplegang on Nov 26, 2017 19:10:04 GMT
If it comes to HG then I will buy whatever is required to play HG and keep on slaying. If EE is any good I will own it shortly after its on sale, and it will make little difference to my HG game time I am sure. I will worry about this when its released.
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Post by condude on Nov 26, 2017 19:16:36 GMT
Actually... would an effective solution be to make the enhanced edition server start with everyone having nothing? That way any newer players who only find HG because of that start on the same playing field, but vets and new players who want to play with the vets can stay on original HG? I, for one, would definitely be on both. Honestly, this is a dreadful idea. Why?
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Post by Test on Nov 26, 2017 20:31:05 GMT
Honestly, this is a dreadful idea. Why? In practice this would become 'punishment' for those people who have built up large banks and invested significant amounts of their time into HG. This would also ensure the departure of most of the 'vets' who have such resources, and currently carry runs for those who do not. While you may not see this as a big issue, many will. You might want to also consider the following... Right now, it is near impossible for vets to get an answer from the Devs on a basic point regarding issues with the current mod which may not be bugs but are definitely beyond irritating flaws. Based on one recent thread at least, it was impossible. There have been calls, for years, to put something in place to have more people developing and to actually move HG forward a little faster. That said we must all be grateful for everything that the Devs do for us out of the goodness of their own hearts. How about we think... that is how the problem is with one mod to develop. How much work will be done when there are two mods to develop? (EE + current HG.) How many gripes will there be when one gets an update and the other does not. What if the updates are different between the two? How will runs form on EE when you remove all the run-carrying vets, or on current when you remove the hope of 'new' players? How long will it be until the new and flash EE mod is the only one that the time-poor developers can find time to develop? How long will it take for the other, ignored version, to become empty? Given that climate of possible things to come, and the existing lack of dev-time, do you really want to further fracture the development time? If you say yes to this, you must remember that it may well generate more gripes about inactivity and absentee-leadership. That is, on top of the resentment and easily predictable /quit responses, due to the bank-possessing and run-carrying vets being relegated to a second tier status in mod progression. And yes... before Funky says it.... supposition...
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