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Post by jelricle on Dec 2, 2022 22:41:58 GMT
THE DEVS ARE KILLING ME!!!!!!
Okay, so I got my first vestige, and, of course, I chose the torch with the locate objects ability. I have been mapping out secrets in a slew of pre-immortal areas (and LL areas, but that is not presently the pain point)
With the locations pinned down, I finally have been moved to create a new toon. I created a rogue purely to hit the pre-immo secret areas.
So, tell me, what kind of a sadistic dev allows a 122DC open lock check in a level 5 capped secret chamber?!?!?!?!?! (yes, apparently, Rip wants to be darn sure those rats don't get into his stuff!)
:_(
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:-D
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Post by Paradoom on Dec 4, 2022 3:10:43 GMT
The chests in the oldest lootspots of the mod, have to be touched ONCE to actually show the real check difficulty. Kinda like an activation trigger. It is the same for the desert secrets and dustbone.
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Post by jelricle on Dec 6, 2022 2:52:29 GMT
The chests in the oldest lootspots of the mod, have to be touched ONCE to actually show the real check difficulty. Kinda like an activation trigger. It is the same for the desert secrets and dustbone. You mean if I try to open them first, then try unlocking? Thanks. I will give that a try!
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Post by jelricle on Dec 6, 2022 15:55:20 GMT
It works!! If I click on the container before trying to unlock it, the DC is much lower! (I was wondering why the first container always seemed to have a manageable open lock DC)
That being said, 61 DC still seems a little high for a level 5 capped room. I cannot even use cautious augmenters of the ferret to create OL and DT items.
In that light, does an augmenter increase the level of the item it is applied to?
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Post by Yojimbo on Dec 6, 2022 17:59:09 GMT
I expect they do as an items level depends on the properties it has added to it at least for 1-40 levels LL and beyond is a scripted system with static levels no mater what an augment does to the item.
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Post by boroie on Dec 6, 2022 23:51:24 GMT
That being said, 61 DC still seems a little high for a level 5 capped room. I cannot even use cautious augmenters of the ferret to create OL and DT items. There is a toolbelt with +10 under the undead kobold guy (need to be small creature to enter). There is an amulet in the gnolls place (where the sap is) with another +10 I think. There are a few other low level bits and pieces around too. Also I think the DCs can tend to change a bit, try opening it a few times and see if it does. Some of the old areas seem to change DCs for secret checks anyway each time you attempt them. Either way, I guarantee its not worth opening.
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Post by chirality on Dec 7, 2022 0:41:23 GMT
also, the traps can be pretty brutal. like, easily one-shotting an at-level toon. it's pretty risky solo. poa secret-hunting is definitely best done with a buddy system.
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Post by jelricle on Dec 8, 2022 2:36:41 GMT
That being said, 61 DC still seems a little high for a level 5 capped room. I cannot even use cautious augmenters of the ferret to create OL and DT items. There is a toolbelt with +10 under the undead kobold guy (need to be small creature to enter). There is an amulet in the gnolls place (where the sap is) with another +10 I think. There are a few other low level bits and pieces around too. Also I think the DCs can tend to change a bit, try opening it a few times and see if it does. Some of the old areas seem to change DCs for secret checks anyway each time you attempt them. Either way, I guarantee its not worth opening. :-D Yes. The tool belt that is a level 6 belt! :-D (I got the amulet of the cutpurse or rogue or what not. At least that is equippable. I also have the measly +2 skill gloves of the rogue. Heck, even nimble fingers requires higher than level 5! :_( )
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Post by jelricle on Jan 3, 2023 22:51:20 GMT
So what is the present protocol about sharing secret search spot files? I have been mapping out the preimmortal areas, along with Hive, Beholders, maze and a couple others.
Is posting a general link frowned upon?
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Post by chainlink on Jan 4, 2023 8:25:00 GMT
As Hell secrets are in the HGwiki I'd say do it there
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