A battle priest

[mescalino]

As big fan of cleric builds i am always fond of builds including them.
As i don't think a turning cleric would work very well at HG (his turning abilities can be nice but at the cost of either melee or casting)

That will leave 2 options a caster or battle priest.
Since i'm realy happy with my caster cleric i was thinking about a combat cleric. After looking on the hgwiki builds page i saw a few builds but it surprised me i didn't see a cleric/CoT build which i think would be a great combo for a battle cleric.

How would a 12 cleric/27 CoT/1Pala work? I think you should get your 4th attack a round the combination of cot and pala gives you good saves and doing properly you Attack shouldn't be to shaggy. Since the dc and duration of your spells are not super i would only focus on self buffing and taking endure spell for endurance of the buffs. You should mainly focus on combat boosting feats like wf etc. and the usual things like blindfight etc.

The best subby would be Fallen angel or Hound archon but those are UR and BUR so Aasimar might be a good substitute if you dont have FA or HA.

What would you think and what would be good lvl progress. With the right tips and info ill redo this post in the character build forum.

Human base then aasimar
As beginning stats:
Str 16
Dex 10
Con 14
Int 10
Wis 14 (+2 race) = 16
Cha 12 (+2 race) = 14

All stats at lvl up go in str.

Boost Discipline. CC-Tumble boost Heal

Pre epic:
toughness
WF Longsword/warhammer (or any other weapon you prefer)
Blind fight
Imp Crit
Light. Reflex (as this be your lowest save)
endure spell
power attack
cleave

Epic feats:
Armor skin
epic prowes
epic wf
Gr str 1 - 8

LL:
gr str 9-10
LL Reflex
4 open spots (maybe sf disc.)

Give me your thoughts....

[kaldair]

Well fyi - I've partied with turning Clerics in all areas here lately - and you wouldn't believe how powerful they are now - even in the Hells! To have a large set of enemies stand around dazed is priceless - and powerful ...

Kaldair

[mescalino]

Well then i stand corrected on that commend. But the question remains on the Battle cleric.

[helbrax]

Not had a lot of experience, especially with spellcasters, but I would think your buffs would get dispelled a lot, leaving you with a pretty squishy fighter who's spells won't penetrate, but I could be offbase, so take my comment with a grain of salt.

[mescalino]

Well i agree That dispell would be your biggest enemy but thats with almost every battle cleric build and also the reason why i invest in so much CoT lvls as that is a 100% BAB class 10cl/10cot pre epic or 9cl and the pala lvl would give you the best BAB progress possible for this build. I also believe there are two types of spell breach rings which would be part of your inventory in this build. I think besides that it can be a viable build .

[FunkySwerve]

highergroundpoa.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=builds&action=display&n=1&thread=6904

[mescalino]

funkyswerve said:

highergroundpoa.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=builds&action=display&n=1&thread=6904

Yes i have seen that build and that is so far the best build i have seen for a combat cleric but i wanted to add some CoT lvls for the extra feats and savings boost.

[bort]

Before you cut lots of cleric levels out of your build, have a read of the spell changes forum and see what it will do to your buffs in terms of duration and power.
One important buff that comes to mind is Divine Power- and with 12 levels of cleric you won't get either of the two extra attacks it grants (one at 45 levels of cleric, one at 55).
That's just one of several important buffs, but you really want close to 35 levels of cleric (the minimum needed for the second added attack).

[mescalino]

OK, first off.. The CoT Save bonus is part of the +20 from any magical means, (items, bard song, etc) therefore its almost useless to take it, maybe try blackguard, some people have found that useful.

Midnite posted this, does this mean that if i was to take 10 lvls of CoT to boost my saves +5, i can only add 15 from items and such?

[bort]

mescalino said:

OK, first off.. The CoT Save bonus is part of the +20 from any magical means, (items, bard song, etc) therefore its almost useless to take it, maybe try blackguard, some people have found that useful.

Midnite posted this, does this mean that if i was to take 10 lvls of CoT to boost my saves +5, i can only add 15 from items and such?

Yes.

[mescalino]

Well that makes it more or less useless to add CoT lvls in this build cause the idea was to boost his saves.
The revisiting this build i would coem to the build Funky posted c35/p4/m1

Too bad cause i always thought CoT would be the best choice for a cleric to become a battle priest. But as said before this is not an ordinary server

[bort]

Certainly not an ordinary server- extraordinary is more like it

[dodrudon]

Extra-ordinary, isn't that just a lot more ordinary?

[bort]

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[Raj]

I never understood why 35/4/1 should be the way to go on a combat cleric; i'd follow a cheesier 38/1/1 route, giving up 1 ab for 1 epic feat, better casterlevel and no xp penalty.
Not great changes but I'd feel more confortable with that: you're not going to malee w/o divine power on, so you're not missing any extra attack from the 26bab version