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Post by jelricle on Oct 12, 2023 11:51:38 GMT
I did say to you previously that Lythari isn't much (if at all) an upgrade over the BUR races (especially when you take into account the flexibility Any Race gives you). I've made shifters with Lythari, Killoren & Verdant Prince and there is minimal difference between them in terms of final functionality, same DC (1 more than a BUR race with +6 Wisdom) no additional Legendary or Paragon forms over the BUR build. So what I'm hearing is that, if you ever get another Lythari book, you wouldn't really need it . . . ;-)
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Post by chainlink on Oct 12, 2023 11:57:17 GMT
I did say to you previously that Lythari isn't much (if at all) an upgrade over the BUR races (especially when you take into account the flexibility Any Race gives you). I've made shifters with Lythari, Killoren & Verdant Prince and there is minimal difference between them in terms of final functionality, same DC (1 more than a BUR race with +6 Wisdom) no additional Legendary or Paragon forms over the BUR build. So what I'm hearing is that, if you ever get another Lythari book, you wouldn't really need it . . . ;-) And neither would you based on what you want to achieve with your build ;-)
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Post by jelricle on Oct 14, 2023 2:57:34 GMT
Okay. I am really committing to DC. Losing Legendary form defense with its +3 AC (Which was offsetting the loss of 4 AC from giving up 20 points of tumble) for full form focus in Dragon. Over the next 3 months, we'll see if the AC drop is worth it . . .
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Post by chainlink on Oct 14, 2023 10:16:56 GMT
As you have now discovered changing to a race/subrace combination that incurs an xp penalty loses you either 25 million (20%) or 50 million (40%) from the 125 million base that reincarnating a level 80 sets you to. This may be somewhat reduced by the 5% bonus for getting all pre-LL accs but I'm not sure exactly when that kicks in. You can either a) consider this an annoyance and fix it by changing your race/subrace combination or b) consider it more playtime to level 80 on a build you enjoy running with.
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Post by jelricle on Oct 14, 2023 14:26:14 GMT
. . . a) consider this an annoyance and fix it by changing your race/subrace combination or b) consider it more playtime to level 80 on a build you enjoy running with. How can I say no to more play time!!!
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Post by jelricle on Oct 20, 2023 4:08:39 GMT
Final update to the first post!
So far I can solo drow, MOAD and Dachy when shackled to level 40, and mortal.
Uroboros when shackled at 54, next.
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Post by jelricle on Oct 30, 2023 21:47:31 GMT
The build can handle Tia, phleg, Stygian, malad and cania. Ness will be the first real test
(Original Malad run doesn’t count!! I was still getting used to the new setup! :-D )
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Post by jelricle on Nov 3, 2023 3:02:21 GMT
Solo'ed PoM!
Yes, the boss fight took me an hour, but that was because I am a newb, not because of the build . . .
. . . (It took three deaths before I realized that the red fog is what was killing me, not the books of pain! :-D Next time, I won't stand in the red fog launching ranged attacks at the big-bad.)
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Post by Yojimbo on Nov 3, 2023 14:38:19 GMT
IIRC you can gust the fog away so if you have Dragon shape you can mostly keep the tactic
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Post by jelricle on Nov 3, 2023 15:39:10 GMT
IIRC you can gust the fog away so if you have Dragon shape you can mostly keep the tactic D'OH x 100!!!!!!!!! :-D Can't wait to try that.
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Post by jelricle on Dec 4, 2023 4:03:51 GMT
Well, I can no longer get into PoM, so I have not had a chance to test gusting away the red fog, but I did manage to rip through Rona while shackled to 56
(final glade took ages, but that was because I was splitting my time with football and because almost all the mobs triggered when I shot one. Srsly, how do people manage to draw them out piecemeal? I finally wedged myself into a corner as silver dragon and alternated breath, heal, restore, breath, heal, restore, etc., until all the inflictors were dead)
Hells have also been going well, so long as I don’t pre-trigger the final trap (since it never shows up as red when activated) I still need to give Ness a go, though.
On to Loca!
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Post by Yojimbo on Dec 4, 2023 15:33:55 GMT
I believe 57 is the shackle not 56 What did you use to draw the enemies?
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Post by jelricle on Dec 4, 2023 18:59:02 GMT
I believe 57 is the shackle not 56 What did you use to draw the enemies? D'oh! Yes, lvl 57. I used an arrow. That is what I thought I saw people do when I did this run as part of a group in the past. I tried targetting the one farthest away from others; later, I tried one that was nearest to me. No dice; all the mobs in the group zerg rushed me! How do you draw enemies in the final glade of Rona, piecemeal?
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Post by Yojimbo on Dec 4, 2023 19:19:21 GMT
I just checking if you used an ability or had a bow equipped as I can see abilities bringing you too close into range. I also don't know if you spawn in GS then pull back and pull as I think usually they are spawned in smaller groups and just using a bow to draw in 1 at a time. Typically the bow user is a Zen archer though insta killing many before they are pulled in all the way.
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Post by jelricle on Dec 4, 2023 20:13:55 GMT
I just checking if you used an ability or had a bow equipped as I can see abilities bringing you too close into range. I also don't know if you spawn in GS then pull back and pull as I think usually they are spawned in smaller groups and just using a bow to draw in 1 at a time. Typically the bow user is a Zen archer though insta killing many before they are pulled in all the way. Well, I definitely spawned while in GS, and I moved pixel by pixel, to try to spawn smaller numbers, but they all spawned at once . . .
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